Erythronium 2013

[Rick R.]

[Regarding Gene's pics:] Sometimes there is just not a good answer to these glitsches

That must be it.  Before, left clicking did nothing for me either (FF 20), but I could right click for an option to enlarge.
Now, everything is fine, and normal left clicking works.

[Maggi Young]

That must be it.  Before, left clicking did nothing for me either (FF 20), but I could right click for an option to enlarge.
Now, everything is fine, and normal left clicking works.

Thanks, Rick -  the internet is a wonderful tool, but it is sadly not without it's idiosyncrasies 

[Guff]

Think it has to do with text between and after the pictures. There are 4 options when uploading the picture maybe this is causing the issue for me?

I tried the newest version of Opera browser and when you left clicked the picture it opens in a new window. Then you need to hit the back button to return to the forum.

I will try crossing two Dens Canis flowers with pollen from Japonicum. Would be nice having a bigger flower of Japonicum that clumps up like Dens Canis.

[Guff]

The pink tinge to that flower is very nice.

[Natalia]

Gene Mirro, magnificent find!

It is a little Erythronium caucasicum from this year.







 I don't know, it is transferred or not larger than at norm quantity of petals....

[Ed Alverson]

Can anyone ID these for me?  I found them about 50 miles east of Arcata, CA near Burnt Ranch.  Note the strong pink coloration.

Gene, was this just one plant mixed in with a larger number of normal E. californicum, or was the entire population showing the pinkish coloration? Would it be correct to say that the site is farther inland than E. revolutum typically grows, and south of the limit of E. hendersonii?

Ed

[Gene Mirro]

Ed, they all have the pink coloration.  According to the Pacific Bulb Society website, hendersonii is only found in the Siskiyou mountains.  Revolutum can be found in the coast ranges all the way down to central California.   I found these plants along Route 299, about 30 miles straight east of Arcata (50 driving miles).  Is that still considered the coast range?  I don't know.

I can't find a description of a California Erythronium species with this coloration.  So I suspect they are hybrids with revolutum.  But I am not a botanist.  The foliage looks exactly like californicum, and they are blooming at exactly the same time as californicum in my garden.  I grew the plants from seed collected at the Route 299 site.  So there is no chance of garden hybridization.

This is what revolutum looks like down in the bay area:





The coloring is much weaker than the more northerly forms.  These are growing in my garden from seed purchased from Tilden Botanic Garden.  They say my plants are identical to the form which grows naturally in that area.  Note that the foliage on my "mystery plant" doesn't look like this at all.  It is narrow and darkly mottled, just like californicum.

[Ian Y]

Gene we have lots of plants just like that self seeding around our garden - they are hybrids between californicum and revolutum, some other species, E. oregonum, could also be involved.

The shape of the filaments in your pictures suggests that revolutum is involved - you maybe have long distance bees doing some pollinating.
Many of these hybrids in our garden are fertile and the seedlings are very similar to the seed parent so it could be that cross pollination happened at some time in the population you show and then it has increased by seeding around.

[ichristie]

We have usual summer weather pouring rain again, super Erythroniums, I am posting two pictures of Erythroniums which I have had for about 8 years suggest E. hendersonii hyb Ardovie Bliss and E. sibiricum seedling E. sibiricum Amur star (Amur is a type of Siberian Tiger) cheers Ian the Christie kind.

[Guff]

 E. sibiricum Amur star is nice, can you take another when it opens to see the markings?

Not sure about the Snowflake, book I have says blue anthers.

1-Japonicum
2-Purple King
3-Frans Hals
4-Rose Queen
5-Snowflake

[Guff]

1-2 Dens Canis

[Janis Ruksans]

My erythroniums - still in greenhouse
Erythronium hendersonii
Erythronium japonicum
Erythronium multiscapoideum
Erythronium sibiricum 12KZ-098 from SE Kazahstan
Erythronium grandiflorum 07-234

[Roma]

Erythronium californicum x multiscapoideum
Seed from SRGC seed ex sown in January 2010 and germinated in April.
I found this bulb in the tray under the pots.  This was the nearest Erythronium pot apart from japonicum which it is not.
No sign of flowers in the original pot.   

[ichristie]

We have had a moment  of sunshine so managed to get pictures of the Erythroniums with flowers open, cheers Ian the Christie kind.

[Oakwood]

Some pics from the yesterday trip for E. dens-canis habitat - the easternmost of the whole species area - Zhytomir region of Ukraine.