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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #165 on: May 18, 2013, 10:15:13 PM »
Got this plant as a present when visiting peony friends. Unfortunately all information about it was lost except that it should be "something very special" and I should find out myself ...  Well, I think it is a P. mascula ...  ??? ::) ???

It seems to me a P. arietina type or a P. officinalis/mollis hybrid...you should have a look at the roots...the species/types mentioned have fasciculated/tuberous roots where the roots of all mascula/daurica types are carrot like.

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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #166 on: May 18, 2013, 10:42:09 PM »
Thank you, Matt. I'll do that when planting it out in autumn.
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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #167 on: May 18, 2013, 10:48:23 PM »
White peonies from today for Whitsunday:
Paeonia officinalis 'Alba Plena'
Paeonia suffruticosa 'Godaishu'
Paeonia ostii 'Feng Dan Bai'
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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #168 on: May 19, 2013, 09:07:42 AM »
P.veitchii has lots of buds. :) Photo taken in the evening light.
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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #169 on: May 19, 2013, 03:08:02 PM »
This came as P.veitchii, blooming today

it looks very much like P. anomala and i like to show both plants to determine the differences.

the plant marked P.veitchii is pictured in this post.  most blooms have 4 carpels , one bloom has 5 carpels.

the plant marked P. anomla has 2 buds one is open and has 2 carpels.

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« Last Edit: May 19, 2013, 03:18:09 PM by Rimmer de Vries »
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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #170 on: May 19, 2013, 03:13:11 PM »
This came as a seedling marked as P. anomla from the Altari Mountains
 it looks very similar to P. veitchii but slightest differences to leaves and only 2 carpels in the open bloom - blooms at same time as P. veitchii.
are these the same?
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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #171 on: May 19, 2013, 03:22:53 PM »
This came as a seedlings marked P. mascula ssp. arientina

blooming at the same time as P. veitcheii. 3 carpels, a bit of fuzz on stems and leaves.

is this plant identified correctly?
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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #172 on: May 19, 2013, 03:37:16 PM »
P. tenuifolia plena blooming today,  like a hot sunny spot, the ants made a colony under this plant and the iris
 gray iris is Iris hoogiana 'Bronze Beauty'
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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #173 on: May 19, 2013, 05:19:30 PM »
Paeonia suminoichi is in flower today, planted last spring. I think, I love it  ;)

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« Reply #174 on: May 19, 2013, 08:44:10 PM »
Paeonia suminoichi?   :o :o :o??? ??? ???  a new species? Never heard about it ...  ::)
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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #175 on: May 19, 2013, 08:51:56 PM »
Rimmer, Paeonia veitchii is considered by Hong just as a subspecies of P. anomala. The only difference is that P. anomal has solitary flowers, rarely 2, P. veitchii 2 - 4 flowers, rarely solitary. Your anoma has a solitary flower, but I can't decide that from the photograph of your veitchii.

What you received as arietina looks like the peony I am guessing what it is and Matt is thinking of arietina ...  We both will have to examine the roots ...  :)
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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #176 on: May 19, 2013, 09:27:23 PM »
Paeonia suminoichi?   :o :o :o??? ??? ???  a new species? Never heard about it ...  ::)
Its a hybrid, "suminoichi" is only its name in Japan  ;D

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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #177 on: May 19, 2013, 09:34:25 PM »
OK, just a cultivar name ... Paeonia 'Suminoichi'   :)
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Re: Paeonia 2013
« Reply #179 on: May 19, 2013, 10:55:29 PM »
Rimmer, Paeonia veitchii is considered by Hong just as a subspecies of P. anomala. The only difference is that P. anomle has solitary flowers, rarely 2, P. veitchii 2 - 4 flowers, rarely solitary. Your anomala has a solitary flower, but I can't decide that from the photograph of your veitchii.

What you received as arietina looks like the peony I am guessing what it is and Matt is thinking of arietina ...  We both will have to examine the roots ...  :)

Thomas
when you say solitary flowers do you mean number of flowers in a stem?  both plants have 1 terminal flower.
the only diff. i can tell is the number of carpels and the leaf cuts. otherwise they look identical, and grow identical
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