Paeonia 2013

[Thomas Seiler]

Is it P. anomala, or is it P. veitchii, or is it P. anomala ssp. veitchii???

As I can recognize just one flower per stem I would say Paonia anomala subsp. anomala ... 

[David Nicholson]

 

[Leena]

Here are pictures of my P.anomala. The seeds for the mother plant of my plant were wild collected from Altai, in banks of river Katun by Helsinki University Expediton in 1990's. This is a young plant for me, it flowers the second time. It is a tall plant, maybe 80cm, but does not need support. The shape of flower petals and how they look forward look typical of the other anomalas I have seen (which is limited, of course .

[Leena]

These are my P.veitchii's, grown from seed, no known provenace.
First P.veitchii var woodwardii (or that is how the seeds were called), a small and young plant, only a few sidebuds.
Then my biggest P.veitchii. When it was younger, there were not many sidebud, but now as the plant has matured, there are a lot of sidebuds, some stems even 4 sidebuds. The color of the petals fades to almost white during flowering. I think there are a lot of variation in the color the P.veitchii, all P.anomalas I have seen are the same color.

[Leena]

P.mollis and P.obovata subsp willmottiae

[Catwheazle]

tree Paeonia rockii (Suffructiosa ssp. rockii) ?
probably "Bing shan xue lian"

This year the snails grow very well 

[Matt]

These are my P.veitchii's, grown from seed, no known provenace.
First P.veitchii var woodwardii (or that is how the seeds were called), a small and young plant, only a few sidebuds.
Then my biggest P.veitchii. When it was younger, there were not many sidebud, but now as the plant has matured, there are a lot of sidebuds, some stems even 4 sidebuds. The color of the petals fades to almost white during flowering. I think there are a lot of variation in the color the P.veitchii, all P.anomalas I have seen are the same color.

Leena...your anomalas & vietchiis are disgustingly magnificent!...One really has to be in Finland for such a result...without taking any merit from the excellent grower!

M.

[Matt]

Does someone have information about Paeonia parnassica ?
Is their color really so dark as shown in the book of Josef Halda?
(From him i got the most of my Paeony seed.)
- unfortunately no parnassica 
regards
Bernd

Again from the deep South...Paeonia parnassica on Mt. Parnassus last week. Yes the colour is really so dark, almost incredible...there is no photoshop on the pics!

Thomas...I think your friend was given a wrong plant...that is probably P. arietina or officinalis banatica...or simply a garden hybrid.

DEUS CREAVIT, LINNAEUS DISPOSUIT (God created, Linnaeus organized)...if only it were so simple!
The problem is not in the "name" of things but in the fact that names are given by humans...and not by nature, that works is a less "defined" way. Humans LOVE to debate and argue about names and morphological characters (is it pink or mauve...dark pink or purple...hirsute or villose...pubescent or slightly hairy...etc etc).
Almost all botanist talk about species without having specified what their concept/definition of species is. What is a species? Apparently there are more than 50 different definitions...it says it all!

On the contrary, when the location & provenance are certified from the wild, there is little to debate!

Species names should only be used for plants that come from the wild (or hand pollinated or cloned wild plants).

M.

[Catwheazle]

.... a dream   

..... there is somewhere a chance of this beautiful plant (legally) to get seeds or seedlings?

[Leena]

I am stunned by the color of P.parnassica, wonderful, and the plants hold their flowers so proudly above the leaves. I wonder why P.parnassica is not more common as a garden plant (actually I have never seen seeds or plants for sale), it is so beautiful. Perhaps it is difficult to grow?

Matt, thank you. The credit goes all to the plants, they are very easy plants. I don't have as much time for the garden as I should.

[Leena]

On more picture of two P.veitchii's, grown from seeds of unknown provenance. I'm thinking the plant with darker flowers must be a hybrid or something (even though it is the same height as others and flowers the same time), because it has so many petals in the flowers.

[Irm]

Again from the deep South...Paeonia parnassica on Mt. Parnassus last week. Yes the colour is really so dark, almost incredible...there is no photoshop on the pics!

oh, what al lovely paeonia 
 (_{if it needs a name, I call it "queen of night"})

[Hoy]

Some unusual peonies!

This one I found in a neglected garden 40 years ago. The root was very old and thick. Any suggestions for a name?

[johnralphcarpenter]

Paeonia 'Joseph Rock'. Wow,what a stunner!

[greenspan]

wow matt, great fotos of the parnassica  (salivation )