We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: tulipa  (Read 51809 times)

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 691
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: tulipa
« Reply #105 on: April 01, 2008, 08:13:07 AM »
Luit,

I just texted (sent an sms) to my Ukrainian friend asking about tulipa graniticola. He replied that tulipa graniticola has much common with tulipa biebersteiniana, and there are only slight diffeences. Anyway, Ukrainian bonanists condider t. graniticola as different species.
He's gonna e-mail me a detailed reply, which I will translate and post. 

Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 691
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: tulipa
« Reply #106 on: April 01, 2008, 12:19:02 PM »
Luit,

my firend has just replied and that's what he wrote about tulipa graniticola: "Before it was considered as one species, that was tulipa tulipa biebersteiniana. But during 50s Ukrainian botanists Klokov and Zoz devided this species into several small subspecies, as the plants from different localities had slightly different features:
Tulipa graniticola
Tulipa hypanica
Tulipa ophiophylla
Tulipa quercetorum
Tulipa scythica
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Armin

  • Prized above rubies
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2531
  • Country: de
  • Confessing Croconut
Re: tulipa
« Reply #107 on: April 01, 2008, 08:59:24 PM »
Beautiful pictures from everybody.

Zhirair,
thank you for tulipa graniticola and its subspecies from Ukraine.
Very interesting - never stop learning!
Best wishes
Armin

afw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 73
Re: tulipa
« Reply #108 on: April 01, 2008, 09:10:37 PM »

Quote
Beautiful pictures from everybody.

Zhirair,
thank you for tulipa graniticola and its subspecies from Ukraine.
Very interesting - never stop learning!


     
The following, very interesting  site, posted by Diane Clement,    http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/home.do) still puts all the above as synonyms of Tulipa beiberstaniana.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2008, 09:12:27 PM by Maggi Young »
Alan Whybrow, late of mighty Sawbo, now in Belper, Derbyshire

Armin

  • Prized above rubies
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2531
  • Country: de
  • Confessing Croconut
Re: tulipa
« Reply #109 on: April 01, 2008, 09:28:59 PM »
Alan,
thanks for the link. This confirms what Luit said.
This confirms again there is much room for improvements in botanists naming nomenclature.
Maybe, future DNA analysis will sort it out...
Best wishes
Armin

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 691
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: tulipa
« Reply #110 on: April 02, 2008, 05:38:51 AM »
I already have few tulips blooming in the garden.

kaumanniana 'Ugam', strangely 2 samples flowered much earlier
greigii 'Melodie d Amore' - again strange, it usually get 60-65 cm tall and one of the tallest greigii tulips. But this sample is only 25 cm
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Michael J Campbell

  • Forum's " Mr Amazing"
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2456
  • Country: ie
    • lewisias.
Re: tulipa
« Reply #111 on: April 05, 2008, 08:13:24 PM »
A few Tulips.
Tulip bakera lilac wonder.
Tulip montana.
Tulip vvedenskyii  hyb
This last one is especially for Maggi,with nice variegated foliage, :)
Tulip praestans unicum.

Armin

  • Prized above rubies
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2531
  • Country: de
  • Confessing Croconut
Re: tulipa
« Reply #112 on: April 06, 2008, 08:54:07 PM »
Michael,
a nice dwarf Tulips collection.

Today T.kaufmannia hybrids open and T. praestans Unikum still having buds.

T.eichleri this year is only half the size (~15-20cm height) compared to the years before. I believe this is result from last years spring drought. (sorry for the poor picture quality)
Best wishes
Armin

Paul T

  • Our man in Canberra
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8435
  • Country: au
  • Paul T.
Re: tulipa
« Reply #113 on: April 07, 2008, 05:54:21 AM »
Love those variegated tulips.  Very, very rarely seen for sale here, and not that variety.  I think we had one for sale last year with a stripe around the outside of the leaf (i.e not as strongly variegated as in your pics) with a pinky flower?  I can't recall as only 2 of the 9 bulbs I bought actually grew, and I couldn't see any variegation on any of them so I assume they were incorrect!  :'(  Very dissapointing.  Would love to grow that one just posted.  Wow!!  :o 8)
Cheers.

Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 691
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: tulipa
« Reply #114 on: April 07, 2008, 08:29:24 AM »
Paul,

if you so admire variegated leaves, I suppose you will be certainly impressed by brand new greigii tulip  'Fire of Love', which has mottled leaves with nice variegation. A real show-stopper for the people who appriciate the beauty of leaves
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/149304/
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Paul T

  • Our man in Canberra
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8435
  • Country: au
  • Paul T.
Re: tulipa
« Reply #115 on: April 07, 2008, 10:07:28 AM »
Oh....... I'm speechless!!!!!  :o :o :o :o
Cheers.

Paul T.
Canberra, Australia.
Min winter temp -8 or -9°C. Max summer temp 40°C. Thankfully, maybe once or twice a year only.

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: tulipa
« Reply #116 on: April 07, 2008, 10:15:13 AM »
Beautiful Tulips Michael and Armin - great show !  :D

Michael,
could you tell me under which name the x Vvedenskii JR is to be found in the Ruksans' catalogue ?  I haven't got that one yet and I find it a very firy orange..
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 691
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: tulipa
« Reply #117 on: April 07, 2008, 11:46:48 AM »
Luc,

I suppose under the name 'Joker'
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Boyed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 691
  • Country: 00
    • Vintage Tulips
Re: tulipa
« Reply #118 on: April 07, 2008, 12:26:31 PM »
Luc,

I am sorry. It is 'Amberland', not 'Joker'.
Zhirair, Tulip collector, bulb enthusiast
Vanadzor, ARMENIA

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: tulipa
« Reply #119 on: April 07, 2008, 12:34:37 PM »
Thanks Zhirair !
Another extra for this year's order  ;D
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal