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Re: tulipa
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2008, 05:58:41 PM »
Gerd, thanks.
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2008, 06:23:43 PM »
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2008, 03:02:27 PM »
Hi all ,

Here comes a question for a Tulip ID :

Knows anybody this species ?

It comes from south west Turkey ( received via a friend ) and I grow it since some years without problems in my bulbframe .

Any ideas are welcome

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Re: tulipa
« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2008, 03:59:07 PM »
I have Tulips flower now also but I'm worrying how early they are. Remember my slug eaten T. sogdiana? I potted them and a few have managed to flower but very poorly. The first to flower every year is 'Heart's Delight'. I also have some humilis showing full colour and many more in bud.
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2008, 04:03:11 PM »
It's frightening isn't it Mark - I had T. pulchella violacea and another hybrid flowering on February 10th (see earlier post)  ::)
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2008, 04:23:59 PM »
Hans, given the region of origin... perhaps Tulipa undulatifolia, sometimes shown as a synonym of T. eichleri?  Tulipa armena is another possibility.... again, from the region, that would be T. armena var. lycica..... dear me, one red tulip with glaucous wavy leaves is quite like another, isn't it? And since it is so hard to be 100 sure of the name of what one is growing, then it is harder still..... at least you know the area yours came from! I think we need our Forumists, Ibrahim, in Turkey and Zhirair, a tulip specialist to come to our aid  ??? 8) 8)
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2008, 04:34:12 PM »
Hi Maggi ,

Thank you for your opinion !
My idea was also T. armena - I'm not shure if this area is still Lycia ....
the plants was found beween Gaziantep - Malatya ( on 1500 m )...if this is a help 8)
Yes -I hope too for our specialists ....
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2008, 05:25:16 PM »
Hans, I believe that T. armena var. lycica differs not only in the area of its distribution but also in the bulb tunic, from T. armena armena.... the tunic of  var lycica is all lined with thick soft hairs.... something to check when next you dig one up!!
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2008, 06:57:09 PM »
Hans,
how large in cm is this tulipa?
The flower resembles T.eichleri but the leaves are much broader.
T.eichleri is 25-30+cm usual.
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2008, 07:08:24 PM »
Armin ,

After a short look in the cold :
The plant has a high of of 15 cm .....

Any ideas ?
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2008, 07:36:44 PM »
Hans,
the only ideas I still have in mind
T. stapfii...but has extended flower tops but can't clearly see on your pix...hmm :-\
Tulipa julia...from Turkey/Iran/Armenia but I don't have a good reference picture...hmm :-\
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #56 on: March 06, 2008, 07:49:20 PM »
Armin ,

Many thanks so far - if you have other ideas let me know
I hope I can send in few days other ( also unnamed ) Tulipa species ...
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #57 on: March 17, 2008, 05:01:56 PM »
Quote from: dominique on March 17, 2008, 04:19:46 PM
Do you know the difference beetween Tulipa linifolia and Tulipa maximowicziana
                                                    Tulipa montana and Tulipa wilsonniana
Mine seem the same

Dominique,   According to Brian Mathew ('The Smaller Bulbs') the only difference between  T. linifolia and T. maximowicziana is that the latter has a border of white around the central dark eye. Mathew states that T. montana and T. wilsoniana are the same thing.
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Re: tulipa
« Reply #58 on: March 17, 2008, 08:25:36 PM »
Quote from: Gerry Webster on March 17, 2008, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: dominique on March 17, 2008, 04:19:46 PM
Do you know the difference beetween Tulipa linifolia and Tulipa maximowicziana
                                                    Tulipa montana and Tulipa wilsonniana
Mine seem the same

Dominique,   According to Brian Mathew ('The Smaller Bulbs') the only difference between  T. linifolia and T. maximowicziana is that the latter has a border of white around the central dark eye. Mathew states that T. montana and T. wilsoniana are the same thing.

Richard Wilford writes in Tulips(Species and Hybrids for the Gardener) that  the difference between T.
maximowiczii and T. linifolia is the T. max.. has longer, more erect leaves and purple rather than yellow anthers, and that, indeed the other two are the same.

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Re: tulipa
« Reply #59 on: March 17, 2008, 09:06:53 PM »
Alan, as you state, the correct name is : T. maximowiczii. Mathew  describes the anthers of T. linifolia as "blackish".

My own experience of plants received as T. montana and T. wilsoniana is that they are identical.
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