tulipa

[I.S.]

   Hans for your nice tulipa I will call 'Tulipa sintenesii' it is registered in that area Gaziantep and Just above at the Kahramanmaraş.  I am nearly sure 97 % for T. sintenesii,  2 % T. armena var. lycica and 1 % for T. armema var. armena.  Tulipa julia is from more east of Tr.
Here a reliable source for these sipecieses. So you can check your other parts of your tulips. There are many photos and dried samples.
http://vanherbaryum.yyu.edu.tr/sus/index.htm

And if you have any other tulips from Turkey. I maybe help!

[Boyed]

Dominigue,

Actually, tulipa maximowiczii is very close in appearance with tulipa linifolia. The difference is that the leaves of tulipa m-ii are upword directed, not as with tulipa linifolia, which leaves are mainly grow in horisonatl direction. Besides, the other difference is that tulipa maximowiczii differes from tulipa linifolia by its small sky-blue base, while tulipa linifolia has larger jet black base.

Tulipa montana is red with bluish-black base. The tip of petals are rounded. it also can be of yellow colour. It also grows in our country.
Tulipa wilsoniana is deep blood red, the back of outer petals has purple shade. Base is black, anthers are yellow. The tips of petals are pointed.

Here is a last year picture of tulipa linifolia blooming in my garden.

[mark smyth]

There is some chat about Tulipa wilsoniana on the Colchicum thread but I'll post the photos here. Here are the red and yellow forms
Edit by M. :  the tulip related posts from the Colchicum thread have been moved to this thread.

[Boyed]

Mark,

Wonderful photos. Thanks for posting

[Paul T]

Very nice, Mark. 

[Gerry Webster]

Zhirair, Very interesting. I think there is a lot of confusion about  plants commercially available under these names in Western Europe (or at least the UK).  Are your descriptions of T. wilsoniana & T. montana based on wild plants? It is my general impression & personal experience that bulbs sold here under these names  are the same. Your pic of T.linifolia looks identical to plants I have seen elsewhere & grow myself under this name. I have only seen once  a plant named T.maximowiczii & that was identical to T.linifolia.

[Boyed]

Gerry,

I keep in touch with different tulip growers, mainly from the countries (republics) of former Soviet Union and we discuss and exchange lots of different information and experience, related to tulips. Tulipa wilsoniana and tulipa montana, are, indeed, different species, though having many common features. Here is it easier to get true species.

I haven't seen tulipa montana here in Armenia in the wild, but my colleague has. He has even photographed it. His camera makes low quality pics, but anyway I will ask him to share them.

The situation in Europe is familliar to me. It is quite hard to obtain some true to name species. You're right, very often the same type of species sold under the name montana and  wilsoniana, but I think, it'll be easier to get true ones from individual small growers. The same applies to tulipa turkestanica; under this name quite often other species are sold.

[afw]

Having admires BD's photo of T. Stapfii on the Bulb Log are there any suppliers of this and other Tulipa such as T. sogdiana, stylosa and similar hard to find tulipa?

[Diane Clement]

Having admires BD's photo of T. Stapfii on the Bulb Log are there any suppliers of this and other Tulipa such as T. sogdiana, stylosa and similar hard to find tulipa?

The Plantfinder is the best place to source plants.  It is available on-line here
http://www.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder/plantfinder.asp

you can enter in a full name or a genus (if you are unsure about the spelling).

T stapfii is listed with 5 suppliers, T sogdiana has 6 suppliers. T stylosa is not listed.  So then I would wonder about nomenclature changes and look it up in the Kew Mononcot database

http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/home.do

and guess what, it is no longer a valid name and the acceped name is T uniflora.  This ends up being no help as the Plantfinder does not list it this either.   

[DaveM]

Zhirair, Looking at all these wonderful tulips, I am reminded that I still haven't identified one of the species I saw on a visit to north-west Iran a few years ago and included in an article on another part of the Rock Garden Club's website, but I'll post it again below. Photographed NW of Lake Orumiyeh. I hope you can help me.

[Maggi Young]

Hello, Diane,
 you may be able to help with this one.... Ian bought some bulbs from a young chap at Blackpool, did not get his name ( typical, Ian!) but got the impression that he was a local member selling his plants, perhaps from a new venture?  Do you, or John Forrest, perhaps,  know who the guy was?

[Maggi Young]

For those of you who may not browse the main SRGC website, , here is a reminder ......
IRAN - Land of the upside-down tulip: Articles by David Millward on main SRGC website
Part one
http://www.srgc.org.uk/monthfeature/august2004/content.html
Part two
http://www.srgc.org.uk/monthfeature/march2005/content.html

[Carlo]

Thanks for the reference Maggi. I suspect that many others, like me, are so taken with the flights of fancy of  the Forum that they seldom go back to the mother ship.

[Maggi Young]

Mostly it is vistors to the main site that do not find the Forum , Carlo, but I like to just give a nudge here now and then!

[mark smyth]

The lovely T. iliensis is flowering in the garden now along with cretica. Both are suitable for troughs and rockeries