Looking for Geranium ID

[maggiepie]

This was grown from seed labelled G. delavyii.
Found first flower this morning and was stunned.
Not delavyii but it must be something special, is to me anyway.

 

[mark smyth]

A colour break maybe?

[maggiepie]

Mark, I had a delavyii a couple of years ago and pretty sure the plant was more upright.

I have several more of these seedlings so will be interesting to see if they are all the same.
They seem to have the same growth habit as this one.

[maggiepie]

I did find this, so seems it could be a version of G. delavyii

http://npgv.eu/g-delavayi-of-g-moupinense/

[mark smyth]

When you have a seedling to spare I'll do you a swap

The article says G. moupinense is no longer used

[Maggi Young]

This was grown from seed labelled G. delavyii.
Found first flower this morning and was stunned.
Not delavyii but it must be something special, is to me anyway.

Helen,
I asked David Victor to have a look at the pictures - he's having computer problems but was kind enough to borrow one to be able to respond.

He says : I've had a look at the pictures and I don't understand why there is such certainty that it is not G. delavayi.  That species belongs to a small group of five sometimes cultivated Geraniums.  It is certainly not G. yunnanense, which has bowl-shaped flowers, nor is it G. pogonanthum, which has marbled leaves and narrow, gently recurved, bearded petals, nor is it G. refractum, which has coarse purple hairs on its leaves and inflorescence.  That leaves us with G. sinense and G. delavayi, which are separated by their nectaries.  G. sinense, uniquely, has a single nectary which circles the flower, whereas G. delavayi has five.  Flower colour can be quite variable and according to Peter Yeo: 
"petal colour (blackish red to pale pink or rarely white, whitish at base, sometimes with a dark area above or below the whitish zone"
Incidentally, Yeo also reports that:


"In S W China many intermediates between G. sinense and G. delavayi have been collected suggesting that natural hybridisation is occurring.  G. sinense has been crossed by Alan Bremner with G. yunnanense to produce G. 'Pagoda'."
So one of these may be the solution to the query.


Many thanks to David for his help!

[maggiepie]

Thanks, Maggi,

Seem all roads lead to David Victor, he is also referred to in the article I posted the link to.
Your information network never ceases to amaze me.

[Maggi Young]

Thanks, Maggi,

Seem all roads lead to David Victor, he is also referred to in the article I posted the link to.
Your information network never ceases to amaze me.

Simply a case of anyone who is anyone being a Forumist, I think.....

[maggiepie]

Simply a case of anyone who is anyone being a Forumist, I think.....

Comes in handy eh?

 

[Maggi Young]

Some news for Geranium lovers :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10631.0