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I have tried both but they have always succumbed in a bad winter in a couple of years
Although I can't speak for Crinodendron patagua, our C. hookerianum looked as though it was dead after last winter, however I left it be and a new set of leaves finally appeared so I am hopeful for flowers next year
Ipomopsis aggregata (Scarlet Gilia) on Paradise Meadows trek, Lassen NP, California.
Very well done Kris.