Fall Scilla and relatives 2013

[John85]

In what soil do you grow scilla autumnalis?
I have seen it growing wild in the dunes in pure sand.
Does it really need  such a poor soil?

[pehe]

In what soil do you grow scilla autumnalis?
I have seen it growing wild in the dunes in pure sand.
Does it really need  such a poor soil?

John, I grow mine in loam (sandy) in a south facing bed. They grow and flower very well and are self seeding almost as a weed.

Poul

[pehe]

The tiny Scilla pulchella.
Scilla lingulata ciliolate. The colour is much deeper in real.

Poul

[Rimmer de Vries]

In what soil do you grow scilla autumnalis?
I have seen it growing wild in the dunes in pure sand.
Does it really need  such a poor soil?

I grow Scilla (Prospero) autumnalis in the garden- in any soil the seeds find. but i think they like a dryish summer

Rimmer

[johnw]

John, I grow mine in loam (sandy) in a south facing bed. They grow and flower very well and are self seeding almost as a weed.

Poul

They won't overwinter where I plant them but do where they self-sow, even in the peat bed with dwarf rhodos.

johnw

[Rimmer de Vries]

Hyacinthoides (Scilla) lingulata from RRW - Cert of Merit form
this one is blooming now about 1 month later than the other forms i posted and blooms with the foliage present, it has a deep blue ovary and dark blue anthers.

I find it odd that these reach for the sun but wilt in the full sun even in the sand plunge. these must naturally grow in a wooded or part shaded area.

Does any one know any collection location descriptions for Hyacinthoides (Scilla) lingulata?

[LucS]

Does any one know any collection location descriptions for Hyacinthides (Scilla) lingulata?

I have collections from Algeria, Tunesia and Morocco.  You may find some data in the Archibald files.

[Rimmer de Vries]

I have collections from Algeria, Tunesia and Morocco.  You may find some data in the Archibald files.

I mean like the physical setting- open hill sides, shaded valleys, under scrub brush etc.

[Maggi Young]

Hyacinthides (Scilla) lingulata from RRW - Cert of Merit form
this one is blooming now about 1 month later than the other forms i posted and blooms with the foliage present, it has a deep blue ovary and dark blue anthers.

I find it odd that these reach for the sun but wilt in the full sun even in the sand plunge. these must naturally grow in a wooded or part shades area.

Does any one know any collection location descriptions for Hyacinthides (Scilla) lingulata?

Only details in  main Archibald Seedlist :
874.700 : SCILLA LINGULATA
874.705 : SCILLA LINGULATA Morocco, near Tangier. Ex a J.W. Blanchard coll. (From a particularly fine dark blue form of this species, which flowers in autumn or early winter under glass here.)
874.706 : SCILLA LINGULATA Morocco, Mohammedia. Ex M.Salmon & M. Fillan 281
874.707 : SCILLA LINGULATA Tunisia, Enfidaville. Ex M.Salmon & C.Lovell 253

Archibald Archive www.srgc.net 

but these give no specifics as to habitat..... perhaps there may be something in the Field notes but most of these are not direct JJA collections.

[PeterT]

For me, they like a lot of water in late Autumn and not so much in Spring -or the leaves can become mouldy. I find that they like to be hotter and drier that most of my bulbs in Summer. I stand the clay pots on top of the sand most Summers and have only once seen them suffer from dessication.

[Rimmer de Vries]

Hyacinthoides lingulata (Scilla lingulata var. ciliolata)  blooming today
This is the form from from Monocot Nursery that gets passed around the PBS BX.  It blooms a month after the foliage emerges.
the flowers have a deep blue ovary and anthers. also the leaves have a nice shape and a very very fine ciliolate edge.

[Rimmer de Vries]

Today while the sun was out,
 3 forms of Hyacinthoides (Scilla) lingulata were blooming showing the difference in blooms.
the white one is a bit more blue but looks washed out in the photo and is the same clone as posted above ex Monocot Nursery and if you look very close shows the ciliate hairy edged leaves.

[Rimmer de Vries]

Two different forms of
Hyacinthoides (Scilla) lingulata are still blooming this week

[David Nicholson]

You grow some excellent Scilla Rimmer

[Rimmer de Vries]

Thank you David
i have been collecting these North African species for a few years and they seem to increase very well from 1 bulb of each.
 And so far they survive the winter in a cold frame, so i am happy with them.