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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #75 on: November 16, 2013, 01:10:05 PM »
Leena, if you bought one representative from each of Wim's 12 flower classes, or each of Hagen's 15, you could be sure that no two of those would closely resemble each other.

I counted I have 21 named snowdrops (and several from 6 different species), most of them belong to Hagen's first five groups (and I'm sure some of mine are very similar to each other, next spring will be interesting to see some flower for the first time), four to doubles and four to yellows. :) So it is a good start. :) And then I have many nameless G.elwesii, almost all different from each other, they were bought just as G.elwesii.
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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #76 on: November 16, 2013, 03:39:01 PM »
Thanks for putting your classification up Hagen, I couldn't see it on your site, but it was late last night when I was looking ::)
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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2013, 04:40:14 PM »
Use it, please use it Brian, and also all other Galanthophiles.
This classification is near, real near to "our" bible.
I had good discussions about this system with Matt and many more around the GALAS, but also here in Germany.
We need a classification, which goes parallel with the  book "Snowdrops".
If not, we galanthophiles will be loosers in a chaos.
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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #78 on: November 17, 2013, 12:26:03 AM »
And then I have many nameless G.elwesii, almost all different from each other, they were bought just as G.elwesii.

Galanthus elwesii can be very variable, both in the size of the plant and the markings on the inner petals.  This makes it hard to find one that is truly unique based just on the markings on the petals, although some were named because they were the first exemplar found, 'Grumpy' for example.
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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #79 on: November 17, 2013, 04:23:00 PM »
Galanthus elwesii can be very variable, both in the size of the plant and the markings on the inner petals.  This makes it hard to find one that is truly unique based just on the markings on the petals.

This is why when I have started to buy new snowdrops I have selected mostly other than elwesii (except I did buy 'Cedric's Prolific'). First I want to wait and see all my unnamed elwesii- snowdrops clump up and compare them to each other. :)
The list of snowdrops in the previous page is good (I have so far only four which are in that list).
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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #80 on: November 17, 2013, 09:47:43 PM »
Leena  - Are all the elwesii vars. hardy for you?  I wonder if others have had hardiness issues with any elwesiis.  I thought someone mentioned last year that the Hiemalis could be a tad iffy.

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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #81 on: November 17, 2013, 11:45:39 PM »
I have selected mostly other than elwesii (except I did buy 'Cedric's Prolific').

I think a snowdrop that is truly prolific (and produces flowers as well as leaves) is a valuable addition to any collection.  I have not tried to grow 'Cedric's Prolific' myself; does it live up to its name?

My most prolific snowdrop is a plicatus (or possibly plicatus x nivalis) that is quite small when it flowers, although the leaves grow longer later in the season.  I am unsure why it has done so well in my garden; perhaps the swift moth larvae don't like the taste? I have to lift and divide the clumps about every three years.  It does not have a name.  'Green Light', although it had a slow start, in now doing quite well also.     
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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #82 on: November 18, 2013, 07:39:21 AM »
Leena  - Are all the elwesii vars. hardy for you?  I wonder if others have had hardiness issues with any elwesiis.  I thought someone mentioned last year that the Hiemalis could be a tad iffy.

All my unnamed G.elwesii are hardy (they have even self seeded), but they are not very early. G.nivalis (I have three from different origins and one is later, the other two are earlier) is already now peaking from the ground, but not G.elwesii, plicatus or woronowii. G.nivalis shows it's noses every year before the winter comes and when the snow melts away in the spring, it just continues growing and opens the flowers.

I have once bought 'Barnes' (that's early elwesii, isn't it), it came in September and the bulb had already started to grow, but didn't have roots. It never came up later in that autumn or in the next spring.

Alan, I planted 'Cedric's Prolific' just last summer, so I hope it will be like it's name in years to come. How does it grow for others? G.nivalis is very prolific here and I think also nameless G.plicatus seems to like it here. :)
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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #83 on: November 18, 2013, 08:38:49 AM »
I have been trying to research what Galanthus 'Blue Magnet@ looks like but the only thing I came up with was this http://www.zazzle.co.uk/snowdrop_blue_magnet-147173931237514623 .  Nice double mark on the inners but a very short pedicel to bear the name 'Magnet'!
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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #84 on: November 18, 2013, 08:42:02 AM »
I have been trying to research what Galanthus 'Blue Magnet@ looks like but the only thing I came up with was this http://www.zazzle.co.uk/snowdrop_blue_magnet-147173931237514623 .  Nice double mark on the inners but a very short pedicel to bear the name 'Magnet'!

LOL, it's a magnet with a Galanthus on a blue background....I don't think there's a Galanthus 'Blue Magnet'  ;)
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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #85 on: November 18, 2013, 09:32:47 AM »
LOL, it's a magnet with a Galanthus on a blue background....I don't think there's a Galanthus 'Blue Magnet'  ;)

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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #86 on: November 18, 2013, 09:35:18 AM »
Here's what Steve said so not a lot of good looking for a picture.  Perhaps we ought to restrict the list to those that are available?

'Blue Magnet'was christened last year,Sorry no pictures,But i spotted it from ten yards.Matt B should have abit more information,but it will be a long time before it's available.
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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #87 on: November 18, 2013, 09:40:59 AM »
Ailwyn/Lady Fairhaven some dispute over whether Lady Fairhaven actually is different
The Alburgh Claw
Anglesey Abbey
Augustus
Blewbury Tart/Green Fingers
Blonde Inge
Blue Magnet not yet in trade
Boyd's Double
Brian Mathew
Carolyn Elwes
Castle Green Dragon
Castlegar
Charlotte Jean
Corkscrew
Daglingworth
Diggory
Ding Dong
Dodo Norton
EA Bowles
Ecusson d'Or
Elizabeth Harrison
Fly Fishing
Fotini
Funny Justine
Gloucester Old Spot
Godfrey Owen
Grake's Gold
Green Brush
Green Light/Green Hornet
Green Mile
Green Tear
Hans guck in die Luft
Heffalump
Hill Poe
Hippolyta
Hoverfly
Hugh Mackenzie
Kencot Kali
Lady Beatrix Stanley
Lady Elphinstone
Lapwing
Modern Art
Moses Basket
Peter Gatehouse
Ronald Mackenzie
Rosemary Burnham
Sickle
Sophie North
South Hayes
Sutton Courtenay
Swanton
Trymposter
Walrus
Wasp
Wendy's Gold
woronowii
Yellow Angel not yet in trade
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Re: Galanthus that are truly easy to recognise!
« Reply #88 on: November 18, 2013, 09:43:03 AM »
Is this not on the list? Like it or not, it's easy to recognise ;D
Galanthus Boyd's Double
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« Reply #89 on: November 18, 2013, 09:46:22 AM »
Well I had avoided that ::) I'll add it Diane and while I'm at it I suppose we had better have 'Carolyn Elwes' :o I'm surprised no-one has volounteered 'The Alburgh Claw' but I suppose John is only just coming out of his summer hibernation ;D
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