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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #165 on: February 20, 2014, 04:25:36 PM »
Very nice indeed Tony
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #166 on: February 20, 2014, 05:21:34 PM »
thank you, it has sat and sulked for years but has now decided to flower.
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #167 on: February 20, 2014, 05:30:53 PM »
Tony, I'm simply green with envy. That is a beautiful wee potful!
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #168 on: February 20, 2014, 06:18:45 PM »
Miraculous Tony. I hope my sulking plants follow the example of yours.
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #169 on: February 20, 2014, 06:35:05 PM »
I would like some help IDing this Narcissus. It came from Jim Archibald seed years ago and the label is long gone.

The plant stands about 10-12 cm tall. The flowers are about 4-6 mm across.

Thanks  :)
On the basis of the photos I find it impossible to decide between N. calcicola & N. scaberulus. It is one or the other though the flowers seem on the small side for either sp. Anne's suggestion to feel the leaves may enable you to decide but, according to Blanchard, the scabrid edges are not an invariable feature.
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #170 on: February 21, 2014, 12:58:52 AM »
I think it could be Narcissus scaberulus, Robert?

The pictures are a bit small to see detail. The 5 flowers (3 open, 2 buds) are coming from a single scape? The pedicel appears to be rather long. It looks like the margin of the corolla might be incurved - clearly so in one of the flowers at least, but not clear if this is the case for all. The corolla also appears to have an entire margin, cup-shaped and wider than it is long/high. This would suggest N. scaberulus to me.

The JJA master seed list does list this species:
706.000 : NARCISSUS SCABERULUS (Endemic to a small area in the upper Mondego Valley in N central Portugal.)

The other possibility is N.calcicola, but based on the characteristics of the corolla I'd have to go with N.scaberulus. Whatever we call it, it's a beautiful flower.

Matt,

Thanks for the feed back with less than ideal photographs.

Yes, there are 5 flowers in the one scape, others have 3 or 4.
The corolla margin is more or less entire, and the cup is wider than long.

Somehow I remember getting N. calcicola with the same seed order. There are still some mysteries that I need to sort-out from some of the other plants that I grew-out. In some cases, where there is a label, the labels do not really match the plant. Anyway, thanks for the help.

Matt is probably right. If you gently run a finger along the edge of the leaf, especially towards the base, you should feel a slight roughness if it's scaberulus.

Anne,

There is roughness along the margin of the leaf, especially towards the base - even with "farmer hands".

Thank you very much for your help.  :)
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #171 on: February 21, 2014, 11:33:21 AM »
thank you, it has sat and sulked for years but has now decided to flower.

Patience is a great virtue Tony !!  Especially for excllent bulb growers !  ;D
Gorgeous potful !
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #172 on: February 21, 2014, 12:08:09 PM »
Thank you for your comments to my 'clusii' :) Perhaps I'm lucky living in here to enjoy growing those petticoats ;)

I've got this gentle giant flowering at the momenet : Narcissus asturiensis...

Nice tiny trumpets, Luc! My asturiensis seedlings from JJA Seeds are still small.

Narcissus hedreanthus flowering now

So cute flowers, Tony!
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #173 on: February 21, 2014, 12:19:12 PM »
A lovely potful, Tony with nice variation - are they seedlings?
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #174 on: February 21, 2014, 12:29:06 PM »
YAY!!  :D :D it's dafflet time again!
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #175 on: February 21, 2014, 12:42:05 PM »
YAY!!  :D :D it's dafflet time again!

WOW :o :o :o Please more pictures, Anne!!!
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #176 on: February 21, 2014, 01:10:33 PM »
I'll take some next week when more are out.
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #177 on: February 21, 2014, 02:59:44 PM »
Narcissus obesus   

Derived from a collection by Mike Salmon (MS451), Portugal, Cape St Vincent.

A gift from Kurt Vickery
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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #178 on: February 21, 2014, 03:49:39 PM »
A good one, Gerry !

YAY!!  :D :D it's dafflet time again!

 :o :o :o  What a show, Anne !!!

Here's my N. cyclamineus

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Re: Winter Narcissus
« Reply #179 on: February 21, 2014, 03:52:25 PM »
Very nice Luc, it's one I struggle with.
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