Flowers and foliage January 2008

[Gerdk]

At present Cyclamen coum flowers with an unusual bloom in my meadow.
It is a self seedling. What do think the expert?

Franz,
I am far away to call me an expert but I would like to ask the same question. I noticed  this phenomenon also at C. coum and C. persicum.
Is it possible that flowers can't go to their ' normal ' position when conditions are wrong (too cold/hot, roots disturbed, etc.)?

Gerd

[hadacekf]

Gerd,
That is possible, but all other blooms are normal.

[Diane Whitehead]

Could it be a hybrid with the one with whirly petals?  Alpinum.

It also flowers in winter, and is closely related to coum,
according to Grey-Wilson's book.

[Renate Brinkers]

All these great pictures here, will also try to post one.
At the moment Eranthis `Grünling´is flowering here.

[Diane Whitehead]

I've never seen a green Eranthis before. 

I have a pale yellow one, just coming up, and a yellow-orange
which started flowering a week ago.  The ordinary yellow one
has not emerged yet.

[Diane Whitehead]

Then there are the ones that could have been
flowering if they hadn't looked delicious.

Usually the deer just bite, but sometimes they bite and pull.

[Renate Brinkers]

The same here, the usual form E.hyemalis start to grow a little later. I have a orange one, `Schlyter´s Orange´that looks like yours and a pale form named `Schwefelglanz´.
Fortunately there are no deer in my garden, only a young dog which found all of the Galtonia bulbs while searching only five minutes.

[Paul T]

So do the named varieties of Eranthis come true from seed, or are they only propagated via division etc?  I've only ever really heard about them here on the SRGC, never elsewhere.  The only ones I know of here in Aus for sure are the straight species (although there are a couple of minor variations in strain there I think), and var auranticus.  I don't know of any other variants here, although that doesn't necessarily mean they aren't.  If they come true from seed then there is obviously more hope of finding them in Australia than there would be if division is the only method of importation.  By the sound of it there are something like 10 different named varieties now, at least that at a rough guess would be how many I think I can recall seeing names of?

[John Forrest]

Franz, I have had Cyclamen coum hybridising with C. alpinum and producing similar flowers to yours.

[Ed Alverson]

While spring may be just around the corner, winter has its certain charms.  In our part of the world the prevaling color in winter is a damp gray green.  One of the sources of the green in the forest is the mass of epiphytes - mosses, lichens, and even ferns.  Here are a couple photos of the fern Polypodium glycyrrhiza, which is a close relative of Polypodium vulgare.  These are photos from the wild, not from gardens - no humans have had a hand in creating these scenes!

Ed

[Renate Brinkers]

Paul,
when I got it it was said that E.`Grünling´, `Schwefelglanz´and `Schlyters Orange´ will come true from seed. At that time they haven´t been flowering sized, now they are and all `Grünling´are really true, from `Schwefelglanz´and `Schlyters Orange´ I only got two of each and now I have a 50:50 rate. When they set seed this year I will try. As the gardener from which I got it is a good one whom I trust and who has a lot of experience with growing Eranthis I believe that they are true.

[Paul T]

Renate,

Are you growing them well separate from each other, or else isolated from bees etc so that they can't cross pollinate?  otherwise they'll just cross amongst themselves anyway.  Good luck with getting more, and keep us in mind when you eventually have more seed than you need.  I'm sure there are a few of us here who'd give it a try, even if it was only a 50/50 chance of true from seed.  At least we could isolate the 50% that WAS true!!    I'd love to see pics of the seedlings as they flower, jsut to see what the differences between them are.  As I mentioned, other than talk of it up here on the SRGC I've never heard of named forms other than auranticus, so they're all fascinating to me.

[Hans J]

Renate + Paul ,

I'm also keen for this plants!
I grow "Schwefelglanz" + "Grünling" as mature plants - in year 2006 I have received from a good source also seed from both .....I think not they will flower in this year -but shure next year -so we will see .
ALso I have pollinate my both plants last spring and also sowing those seeds .....
E. h. "Flore plena" does not seems produce seeds - so I make cuttings in last year ....

I still search for E. h. aurantiacus !

[johanneshoeller]

Here are my C.coum with the unusual flowers although my garden is in the Austrian Alps and the soil is frozen.
Hans

[Renate Brinkers]

Hans and Paul,

I grow it as isolated as it is possible and I hope I will get lots of seed!

The E.h.`Flore Plena´I have can not set seed, there are only flower leafs. As I know there are some different sports.