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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #225 on: September 18, 2014, 03:09:19 PM »
Fermi, are you sure that your Tulipa Concerto is really Concerto? What I have with this name is white (or cream) with plain yellow center
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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #226 on: September 19, 2014, 03:10:42 AM »
Hi Oleg,
I can't be sure at all!
It's the first time I've grown it and did think it looked a lot like 'Heart's Delight'.
We are a bit "at the mercy" of whatever the importers send to us!
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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #227 on: September 21, 2014, 11:52:10 AM »
The cluster of Tulipa kolpakowskiana looks better in full sun!
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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #228 on: September 25, 2014, 12:52:33 AM »
Similar to T. kolpakowskiana is Tulipa (clusiana ssp) chrysantha 'Tubergen's Gem' which has a soft red exterior,
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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #229 on: September 25, 2014, 06:50:18 AM »
Whatever they are, Fermi, all your tulips are real heart's delight. They cheer me up when it's getting colder and colder here (already only +7)
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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #230 on: September 29, 2014, 12:47:11 PM »
Glad they are cheering for you, Oleg :)
Here's Tulipa clusiana 'Cynthia' x 2
Tulipa albertii
Tulipa hageri
Tulipa batalinii
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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #231 on: October 28, 2014, 04:59:12 PM »
You may recall this : 
Going Wild for Tulips

For anyone with an interest in wild tulips pictured in nature I can thoroughly recommend this little booklet by Eric Breed.
There are 42 species beautiful photographed in their habitat in for instance Kazakhstan, Kirgizstan, Turkmenistan, Iran, but also in Crete and Switzerland.
The photos are made over several years by Eric Breed, Wim Lemmers, Marijn van den Brink, Sjaak de Groot, Arie Peterse and most trips were guided by Vladimir Kolbintsjev.
The price of this little booklet is € 9,95 excl. p. p.
 Details on ordering etc. can be obtained from Eric Breed: info@tulippictures.eu


Now I suggest you have a look here, in case  you have not spotted the link from Eric Breed's profile:   http://www.tulipsinthewild.com/   and follow the links to see the slideshow of pictures from Eric Breed, Marijn van den Brink and   Vladimir Kolbintsjev - and their colleagues  8)
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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #232 on: October 29, 2014, 01:45:19 AM »
Thanks, Maggi,
that's a brilliant slide-show but raises a few questions, such as what exactly am I growing labelled T. kolpakowskiana? ???
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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #233 on: October 30, 2014, 11:40:42 AM »
Thanks, Maggi,
that's a brilliant slide-show but raises a few questions, such as what exactly am I growing labelled T. kolpakowskiana? ???
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fermi
As Eric says, "There are bulbs grown commercially in the Netherlands under the name T. kolpakowskiana, but they actually belong to a different, related species in the T. ferganica group"; this isn't confined to T. kolpakowskiana, there are a number of Tulip "species" which are widely available from Dutch growers which are not in fact the true species. Tulipa tarda comes to mind. This is widely available in garden centres in the UK, but is almost certainly of hybrid origin. The picture below should be the true species, from Janis.

These Dutch clones are nice plants and easier to grow than the wild species, but what to call them? Kurt Vickery and I discussed this a while ago and concluded that Tulipa tarda Hort. would do!

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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #234 on: October 30, 2014, 02:08:15 PM »
Fermi: your tulip is a nameless member of the ferganica group, it is easy to see on the hairy stems ( kolpakovskiana and its alies have no hairs on the stem). I grow similair plants from the hills on south side of the fergana valley.
The name kolpakovskiana for this tulip orginate by A.D. Hall who described it in his book the genus Tulipa together with T. iliensis with is also not correct. Both tulips belong to the same species as mentioned above.

Ralph: T. tarda as grown in Holland is the true species together with its yellow form that is sold under the name T. urumiensis.

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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #235 on: October 30, 2014, 02:10:52 PM »
Welcome, Sjaak!  It has been a  real pleasure to see your photos on the wild tulip website.  8)
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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #236 on: October 30, 2014, 04:53:30 PM »
Thank you, Sjaak, it's good to have a real expert on board!
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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #237 on: October 30, 2014, 04:55:50 PM »
Fermi: your tulip is a nameless member of the ferganica group, it is easy to see on the hairy stems ( kolpakovskiana and its alies have no hairs on the stem). I grow similair plants from the hills on south side of the fergana valley.

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Sjaak, would it be correct then to call it Tulipa aff. ferganica?
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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #238 on: October 31, 2014, 03:17:22 PM »
Hi Ralph
that is correct, but I am afraid that the name T. kolpakovskiana hort. will survive as this name is familiair in the trade.

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Re: Tulipa 2014
« Reply #239 on: October 31, 2014, 09:41:06 PM »
Thanks, Sjaak,
I'll need to update the talk I'll be doing on species tulips next year for a nearby garden club - I'll give them the link to your website, too!
I'd love to try the true T. kolpakovskiana but where can we get seed of it?
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