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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #570 on: September 21, 2014, 07:07:57 AM »
Impressive Cyclamen , thanks to all for showing.

For some it was stil to hot in my greenhouse. Now the first graecums are starting.(pict. 1)
Some of the hederifoliums in the garden are very productive e.g. this white hederifolium. (pict2) Another hederifolium who was named as hederifolium 'No Name ' . (pict3)

On mirabile just tiny buds , same story with rohlfsianum . The first cypriums are just flowering.   
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #571 on: September 22, 2014, 08:41:53 PM »
I my Graecum plants just starting into growth.

image by johnstephen29, on Flickr

I also have some seedlings just starting into growth, on the left are C. Confusum & on the right are C. coum subsp caucasicum, I am hoping to plant these out in the garden next year & get a colony of each going.

image by johnstephen29, on Flickr
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #572 on: September 24, 2014, 02:53:54 PM »
Nature and nurture.

In January 2013 I sowed seed of C. graecum ssp candicum from the SGRC seedex. The first flowers appeared this month. From germination to flowering in 20 months is, in my experience, amazing for graecum; 3, 4 or 5 years is more usual, I think. I'd be interested to hear if others have had a similar experience. The explanation is probably due to how they've been treated. The seedlings have been kept indoors on a south-east facing bedroom windowsill and I kept them growing for as long as possible - right through their first summer, only going dormant this year during July and August. I thought I'd treat them this way (as I do rohlfsianum) because being endemic to Crete they'd appreciate the extra warmth. It can't all be nurture though. I treated another pot of candicum (from the Cyclamen Society seedex) in the same way, although sown a month earlier, and they're still a year or so from flowering I'd say. See photos below.

For anyone studying the flowers closely....I'm not fully convinced it's a candicum either! Whatever the subspecies, 20 months to flowering for graecum is a first for me.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #573 on: September 24, 2014, 04:06:58 PM »
By way of comparison, here's the first flowers on C. graecum ssp graecum ex CSE 94046, also from Crete. The parent plant was collected south of the Rodopou peninsula, above Spilia. Seed sown October 2011, ie three-years-old. Treated the same as the candicum in the above post, but moved to the greenhouse last year. One of the plants has, potentially, very good leaves.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #574 on: September 24, 2014, 06:22:17 PM »
Nature and nurture.

In January 2013 I sowed seed of C. graecum ssp candicum from the SGRC seedex. The first flowers appeared this month. From germination to flowering in 20 months is, in my experience, amazing for graecum; 3, 4 or 5 years is more usual, I think. I'd be interested to hear if others have had a similar experience.......................

I'm still waiting for my first flowers on graecum sown 2008 and 2009 and it doesn't look likely that I shall see any this year :(

Some Cyclamen that are flowering though:-

C. cilicium sown from seed (AGS 10/11-2312) sown 23/09/11, labelled 'Bowles Variety'. I note from 'Cyclamen' Chris Grey-Wilson 2002 that the Author writes on 'Bowles Variety' "........but the plants are scarcely distinguishable from many ordinary cilicium...."

C. cilicium forma album from seed (SRGC 10/11-1170) sown 18/10/11. Note that the pot, which contains 13 seedlings re-potted in June this year, includes a pink one too.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #575 on: September 24, 2014, 06:26:21 PM »
David, my recollection of the description of Bowles var is that it was white with a pink/ purple nose rather than the lilac with a pink/ purple nose so it looks as if you have the "true plant" (whatever that means!). Looks very pretty - I had some from Archibald seed decades ago and I think they came out pink.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #576 on: September 24, 2014, 06:27:07 PM »
Cyclamen cyprium ex ES from seed kindly sent to me by Tony Willis in 2009 and sown 16/10/09. One or two Forumists have tubers from the same seed.

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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #577 on: September 25, 2014, 10:24:42 AM »
David, my recollection of the description of Bowles var is that it was white with a pink/ purple nose rather than the lilac with a pink/ purple nose so it looks as if you have the "true plant" (whatever that means!). Looks very pretty - I had some from Archibald seed decades ago and I think they came out pink.
 

Thanks for that Mark. Oddly, bearing in mind his comments, Grey-Wilson doesn't describe Bowles Variety so I had no idea what to expect. I agree with you if mine is anything like the "true plant" it is a very pretty little plant.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #578 on: September 25, 2014, 04:27:45 PM »
Cyclamen cyprium ex ES from seed kindly sent to me by Tony Willis in 2009 and sown 16/10/09. One or two Forumists have tubers from the same seed.

Looking (and smelling?!) good, David. I have a couple of leaves starting to show, but no buds up yet. Many thanks.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #579 on: September 25, 2014, 05:52:48 PM »
Smelling very good Matt. Maybe yours will need another years growth.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #580 on: September 26, 2014, 07:43:50 PM »
Two very different Cyclamen in flower today,

Cyclamen hederifolium from Corfu

and C.intaminatum a form with laciniate petals

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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #581 on: September 26, 2014, 07:56:16 PM »
looks like a butterfly
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #582 on: September 26, 2014, 08:22:41 PM »
Two very different Cyclamen in flower today,

Cyclamen hederifolium from Corfu

and C.intaminatum a form with laciniate petals

those are both superb - love the hederifolium colour
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #583 on: September 26, 2014, 08:58:08 PM »
Two very different Cyclamen in flower today,

Cyclamen hederifolium from Corfu

and C.intaminatum a form with laciniate petals

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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #584 on: September 27, 2014, 12:04:20 AM »
Two very different Cyclamen in flower today,

Cyclamen hederifolium from Corfu

and C.intaminatum a form with laciniate petals

Not sure I care for the laciniation, Melvyn, but what well-marked striations the flowers have! And the colour of the flowers on some of the CSE Corfiot heds amazes me every time I see them. :o
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