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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #720 on: November 23, 2014, 02:35:27 PM »
Hello everyone. New here. I recently bought some C. africanum and C. greacum from Ashwood nurseries. Is there any special ways of sowing and caring for them or do I just put them in a pots and wait?

Hello Lewis - sorry, I've got muddled- Steve did reply to you, but I wasn't sure  if you'd had answers from the cyclamen folks so I'm just adding a couple of links you may find useful -  http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=192.0  and here :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4584.msg123273#msg123273 and the posts from Diane following that, too.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #721 on: November 24, 2014, 07:18:40 PM »
Hello Lewis - sorry, I've got muddled- Steve did reply to you, but I wasn't sure  if you'd had answers from the cyclamen folks so I'm just adding a couple of links you may find useful -  http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=192.0  and here :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4584.msg123273#msg123273 and the posts from Diane following that, too.

Thanks Maggi, and everyone else.   :)

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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #722 on: November 24, 2014, 09:42:00 PM »
Courtesy of ants - normally I hate them, but this array of Cyclamen coum and occasional cilicium is special
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #723 on: November 24, 2014, 10:00:46 PM »
Hi Arthur the ants have given you a good selection of plants with some great leaves, ironic seeing as you hate them ;D
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #724 on: November 26, 2014, 11:34:39 AM »
A nice Cyclamen rohlfsianum, unfortunately a very slow grower.
Second picture shows it with different leaves of other plants and two siblings of the same seed capsule.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #725 on: November 26, 2014, 12:22:34 PM »
Those are lovely forms Hans.
Do you mean that this particular plant or the species generally are slow for you?   
C. rohlfsianum grows slowly for me too but I assumed that this was mainly because my conditions were somehow sub-optimal. 
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #726 on: November 26, 2014, 01:38:32 PM »
I find that C. rohlfsianum is variable in terms of growth rate (C. cyprium and some others are similar). Grown under apparently the same conditions some are really slow and some (unfortunately a minority) grow reasonably quickly.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #727 on: November 26, 2014, 01:57:54 PM »
Ashley, it is this particular plant and its siblings. Do not know the reason, maybe because they came from a selfed plant, the colouration of the leaves or maybe the conditions are worse than for others. On the other hand the motherplant (not as nice) is growing next to them and grows well. Those plants are about 8 to 9 years old....
All other C. rohlfsianum grow much faster.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #728 on: November 26, 2014, 02:34:47 PM »
Thanks both.  I must try again, with seed from another source.
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #729 on: November 26, 2014, 03:07:44 PM »
Ashley, most of my plants are from Cyclamen Society seed and they are very variable in constitution
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #730 on: November 27, 2014, 05:21:12 PM »
What happened with this Cyclamen rohlfsianum?

I hope very much there is a better Cyclamen grower than I am who would be able to tell me the reason for the unexpected behaviour shown here. Previously in the greenhouse the plant developed fine new leaves.
After the temperatures dropped I kept the pot in a slightly warmer room inside. First the leaves grew on but now, about a week later they began to wilt.
I must confess that I did not water carefully after the change mentioned so that the leaves were found somewhat flabby at one occasion. But after that and an additonal watering they recovered at first but began to yellow later.
So my question is - es Cyclamen rohlfsianum especially sensitive concerning irregular watering/temperature changes?

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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #731 on: November 27, 2014, 08:29:12 PM »
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Perhaps it couldn't cope with rapid temparature change? I always keep my rohlfs ouside until below 0c at night.  ??? ??? ??? ???
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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #732 on: November 28, 2014, 03:10:38 PM »
@Gerd
Perhaps it couldn't cope with rapid temparature change? I always keep my rohlfs ouside until below 0c at night.  ??? ??? ??? ???

Thank you Naoto!
Where do you leave the species when it was freezing outside?  What is the minimum for your plants?

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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #733 on: December 04, 2014, 06:01:22 AM »
It seems to me that I stopped the Cyclamen thread with my last question!
Perhaps there will be anyone who can tell me the temperature requirements for
Cyclamen rohlfsianum during winter time.

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Re: Cyclamen 2014
« Reply #734 on: December 04, 2014, 01:10:00 PM »
It seems to me that I stopped the Cyclamen thread with my last question!
Perhaps there will be anyone who can tell me the temperature requirements for
Cyclamen rohlfsianum during winter time.

Gerd

Gerd - my first thought when confronted with yellowing leaves and/or wilting leaves (that don't recover by the evening after a sunny day) is always, damn, I've screwed up on the watering! Underwatering isn't usually a problem, plants soon pick up. More often for me it's overwatering, and rohlfsianum does seem to be particularly sensitive to this, particularly as the temperatures drops when the roots could be sitting for days in cold, wet compost. During winter, rohlfsianum needs to be kept above freezing. I've not had to use the heater in my greenhouse so far this year - it's been so mild - but it got down to just below freezing in there this week and while the rohlfsianum are ok, I wouldn't want to risk it getting much lower than that. I also have some plants in the house and they grow well so they like the warmer conditions, but the light levels are much lower so plants can get etiolated if they're kept growing during the dullest time of the year. If you want to keep plants in character it's probably best to grow them 'hard' but frost-free.
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