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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #150 on: February 23, 2014, 06:26:17 PM »
Tatsuo, These pinkish pinnatifida is one of the most beautiful Eranthis I've seen :P
A stalk of my Eranthis byunsanensis has 2 flowers, is there anyone who has seen this before? I also discovered that a stem at one of my Eranthis pinnatifida has flowers where the petals are twisted and green ???

Karl, never seen two flowers on one stalk of Eranthis...a chance happening??
Green and twisted petals are common in double Eranthis hyemalis but I've never before seen it in E. pinnatifida...I've seen it in other Ranunculaceae, some Anemone's have it for example....could be viral  :( or nuclear disaster  :-\ related  ;) ;)
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #151 on: February 23, 2014, 06:28:28 PM »
Hi!

I'd like to ask experts about my eranthis - I bought  this eranthis Guinea Gold at RHS London Show last year. I heard that this one is sterile (that's what the lady who sold this told me) but mine is producing pollen now (see the attached picture) Is this a true Guinea Gold?, or just another hyemails or cilicica???

Many thanks in advance!  :)

Naoto,

Eranthis x tubergenii 'Guinea Gold' sets pollen (that's normal) but the pollen is not fertile or the ovary or stigma are not receptive.
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #152 on: February 23, 2014, 06:54:26 PM »
Hi!

I'd like to ask experts about my eranthis - I bought  this eranthis Guinea Gold at RHS London Show last year. I heard that this one is sterile (that's what the lady who sold this told me) but mine is producing pollen now (see the attached picture) Is this a true Guinea Gold?, or just another hyemails or cilicica???

Many thanks in advance!  :)
Naoto, your Eranthis looks like hyemalis.
With cilicica and tubergenii the sheets are deeper slit, see this picture.
Left at the back is hyemalis.
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #153 on: February 23, 2014, 07:38:36 PM »
Naoto,

Dirk is right of course, the leaves are the defining part of the visible plant. See below; left: E. hyemalis and right: E. x tubergenii 'Guinea Gold'.
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #154 on: February 24, 2014, 12:38:19 PM »
@WimB and udo

 :'( :'( :'( ......so I'll cherish this as either hyemalis or cilicica from now..... :'(
But thank you for your help!  :)
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #155 on: February 24, 2014, 08:06:44 PM »
Now Eranthis of hyemalis ' Schwefelglanz' shortly after the full blossom, the blossoms seem almost white;
Unfortunately, Eranthis of hyemalis' Orange Glow', is not effective the orange with the digital pictures well,
Eranthis hyemalis 'Grünling', with fully open blossoms one hardly sees somewhat of the partial green outside;
Eranthis hyemalis 'Semi-Plena' in two different forms, grown from seed, unfortunately, only a small part of the seedlings is filled again
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #156 on: February 25, 2014, 06:45:52 AM »
......so I'll cherish this as either hyemalis or cilicica from now.....

No, 'Guinea Gold' gets its more finely-divided leaves from its cilicica parent.  So it must be hyemalis. 
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #157 on: February 25, 2014, 04:48:55 PM »
@Alan_b
 :'(......well, I've learnt the lesson......
FYI......this is my plant blog......written in Japanese so please forget about the texts, but the last two pictures were taken last year and the last picture was the same eranthis I posted earlier here.

http://wildcreampie.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/rhs-london-plant-design-show.html

P.S @udo....nice Orange Glows!
« Last Edit: February 25, 2014, 04:51:49 PM by Naoto The Zombie »
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #158 on: February 26, 2014, 04:16:02 PM »
Just an ordinary Eranthis x tubergenii .......
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #159 on: February 27, 2014, 06:31:59 AM »
What's the difference between ordinary tubergenii and Guinea Gold???  ???
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #160 on: February 27, 2014, 04:24:45 PM »
Eranthis pinnatifida double flower
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #161 on: February 27, 2014, 05:20:39 PM »
What's the difference between ordinary tubergenii and Guinea Gold???  ???
Naoto, Eranthis tubergenii set seeds, 'Guinea Gold' is sterile. The flower from tubergenii is a little bit larger as 'Guinea Gold'.
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #162 on: February 27, 2014, 08:56:33 PM »
Naoto, Eranthis tubergenii set seeds, 'Guinea Gold' is sterile. The flower from tubergenii is a little bit larger as 'Guinea Gold'.

Hmmm, I have a "regular" form of tubergenii which sets no seed and I have one from you (Dirk) which does set seed. In my experience the leaves and stalks of "Guinea Gold" are darker and keep their bronze colour longer too.
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #163 on: February 28, 2014, 06:27:50 AM »
Eranthis pinnatifida double flower

 :o :o :o :o :o 8)

That is the most precious flower, Karl! You must have known a good supplier. Is it stable and fertile?
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Re: Eranthis 2014
« Reply #164 on: February 28, 2014, 05:32:25 PM »
Hmmm, I have a "regular" form of tubergenii which sets no seed and I have one from you (Dirk) which does set seed. In my experience the leaves and stalks of "Guinea Gold" are darker and keep their bronze colour longer too.
Wim, possibly there are beside 'Glorie' and 'Guinea Gold' even more sterile forms of this cross.
My fertile form has originated many years ago with a friend in Germany.
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