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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #150 on: March 17, 2014, 08:48:09 PM »
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    Narcissus bulbocodium var. biflorus.
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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #151 on: March 17, 2014, 08:52:15 PM »
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    Narcissus bulbocodium var. biflorus 2.
    Narcissus bulbocodoium subsp. quintanilhae
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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #152 on: March 18, 2014, 07:20:39 AM »
Wow! What an interesting site and situation!  The jonquillas in water and the bulbocodiums in neighbourhood.

How does this place look during summer?

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it seems your 'biflorus' bulbocodium is a hybrid
« Last Edit: March 18, 2014, 07:24:07 AM by Gerdk »
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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #153 on: March 18, 2014, 12:39:27 PM »
Gerd here is a picture of  Narcissus x abilioi, but in this cross is N. fernandesii (mother) x N. bulbocodium L.
http://www.herbario.ian-ani.org/index.php?c=pliegos&a=ficha&i=2384
http://www.biodiversidadvirtual.org/herbarium/Narcissus-x-abilioi-Fern.Casas.-img7623.html


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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #154 on: March 19, 2014, 07:13:45 AM »
Thank you Rafa,
The other hybrid is quite different from those you pictured!

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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #155 on: March 19, 2014, 08:56:26 AM »
Is not easy to think that this Narcissus bulbocodium L. var. biflorus F. M. Vázquez is not a hybrid, because I just found 5 plants in 2 km square. It grew between N. jonquilla clumps only. All parts of the plants except the flower were like N. jonquilla, with the perianth tube completely green....black tunics, while subsp. quintanilhae has redish-brown tunics....

You can see a particular variety of a plant, if you are in a big locality of this plant  that contains a great genetic variability. For example N. cantabricus and the var. petunioides and even var. biflorus as well, (if you want to call it like this). Also this happens in N. rupicola, N. confusus....

But this variety of N. bulbocodium L. with only 5! plants in a place where there are only subp. quintanilhae? Apart the morphological diferences, subsp. quintanilhae has a strong scent like "white rice" and var. biflorus hasn't scent. This is quite important in my oppinion.

I would say this is not a variety, this is a good species, that it's almost extinct. In the other 3 localities they aslo mentioned 1 plant or so. The only thing that I would like to know is if there are N. jonquilla and subsp. quintanilhae in the other localities or is it possible to find it growing alone.

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« Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 09:20:14 AM by Gerdk »
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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #157 on: March 21, 2014, 09:29:14 PM »
First daffs in my garden
Narcissus 'Telamonius Plenus'
No name for this one
Narcissus bulbocodium
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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #158 on: March 21, 2014, 09:37:22 PM »
Not sure about this one.  From 2010-2011 SRGC seedex, wild collected by Rafa, labelled Narcissus triandrus pallidulus which it clearly is not.  The flower is a bit deformed with only 5 petals.
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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #159 on: March 22, 2014, 02:01:17 AM »
Not sure about this one.  From 2010-2011 SRGC seedex, wild collected by Rafa, labelled Narcissus triandrus pallidulus which it clearly is not.

Parhaps a wild hybrid, Roma? Does it have some scent?
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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #160 on: March 22, 2014, 02:24:48 AM »
Narcissus papyraceus, JJA 702.720 :) I didn't expected flowers in this pot. I fed them a little after flowering and didn't repot them last season.
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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #161 on: March 22, 2014, 10:48:35 AM »
Garden varieties...

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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #162 on: March 22, 2014, 01:37:17 PM »
Here in Interior Northern California the Narcissus blooming season is coming to an end. This little N. rupicola is blooming for the first time from seed in 3 years - to blooming size in record time for us.  ;)
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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #163 on: March 22, 2014, 08:43:48 PM »
Until today I did not realize Narcissus could be so small :o
Picture of Narcissus calcicola 'idol' taken today at Wisley Alpine House 
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Re: Spring Narcissus 2014
« Reply #164 on: March 23, 2014, 11:42:02 AM »
three more in flower at the moment

Narcissus triandus from near Toledo
Narcissus rupicloa ssp watieri
Narcissus alpestris from Cerler
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