Trillium 2014

[Shadylanejewel]

And so it begins......Trillium rivale

[Maggi Young]

Our very first  this year :
Trillium ovatum maculatum maculosum

[Steve Garvie]

Trillium ovatum maculatum

A bonny wee thing and a new one on me!!!

[johngennard]

Maggie,What is the difference between ovatum and ovatum maculatum ?Presumably it is much earlier as my ovatum aren't showing colour yet in spite of the difference in climate between your location and my own.

[johngennard]

Maggie,What is the difference between ovatum and ovatum maculatum ?Presumably it is much earlier as my ovatum aren't showing colour yet in spite of the difference in climate between your location and my own.

[Maggi Young]

The difference is the patterning on the leaves, John. T. ovatum has plain leaves. Ours are  hardly showing at all yet. showing

[Menai]

And so it begins......Trillium rivale

Julie, is yours a mature plant? What is the diameter of the flower? Mine, sown 2010, is going to flower over the weekend for the first time and I am interested to know how much bigger it is likely to get.

Erle
Anglesey. Are we going to have a fine week as suggested by Met Office?

[Shadylanejewel]

Julie, is yours a mature plant? What is the diameter of the flower? Mine, sown 2010, is going to flower over the weekend for the first time and I am interested to know how much bigger it is likely to get.

The seed from Northwest Native Seeds (unfortunately no longer in business) was planted in 2008 and this is the third year of blooms.  The average diameter of the flowers is 2.5 cm (photo 3).  The height ranges from 5-15 cm.  Very cute and quite small.  Excellent veining on the leaves. (photo 1)

I also have some from T-List sown in 2006 and the first flower of those opened today.  They have deeper purple spots (photo 2) and do not have the veining.

[Shadylanejewel]

Trillium cuneatum budded.
Trillium kurabayashii showing color. 
Trillium ovatum in various stages. 
Trillium chloropetalum sown 2007 blooming for the first time.

[Diane Whitehead]

I'm developing a theory that west coast trilliums and their seedlings flower according to their
home latitude.

All my ordinary ovatum are native to my property (in Canada) and have not emerged yet.

Julie lives south of me and hers are up and flowering.  Are yours native to your area, Julie?

My ovatum maculosum (as published by Case) have been flowering for a couple of weeks. It's
from northern California.

I wonder if we could have a floral calendar if someone planted a bed of ovatums from the whole
of the range.

[Maggi Young]

Aha! I see we have been giving the lovely little marked trillium the wrong name - I have changed my post above and edited the Bulb Log to give the correct  maculosum     Thanks, Diane!

http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2014Mar0913943651275MarchBULBLOG1014.pdf

[Shadylanejewel]

I'm developing a theory that west coast trilliums and their seedlings flower according to their
home latitude.

Julie lives south of me and hers are up and flowering.  Are yours native to your area, Julie?

Hi Diane neighbor to the north.  Yes, all of the Trillium ovatum are native to our property and they are the only ones.

My T. kurabayashii are just now beginning to bloom.  Reports are they have been blooming since at least mid February in northern California (of course now I can't find where I read that).  T. rivale (aka pseudotrillium) flowers started opening a few days ago and "they are in full bloom in SW Oregon" (Kelly Leonard facebook Trillium group).

[Menai]

My plant is more like Julie's 2nd one. Diameter 30mm.
This seed was JJA 1.922.320 described " Cultivated seed from Boyd Kline's garden in Medford, Oregon , including pinks & his 'Purple Heart'. Very local on the serpentines of the Klamath ranges along the California-Oregon line & one of the dwarfest."
I think I have 4 plants in this pot and will have to be brave and re-pot later in the year. As a plant of serpentine soils do I need to make a special mix for them?

Erle
Anglesey in lovely sunshine.

[Matt T]

This seed was JJA 1.922.320 ...

Hi Erle, you might want to also add this to the Archibald seed thread: http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9360.0?
Cheers, M

[Shadylanejewel]

As a plant of serpentine soils do I need to make a special mix for them?

Hi Erle, 

The following is from one of Russell Graham's posts to T-List

"What I have read suggests rivale "never" occurs naturally except on serpentine. Yet it is grown successfully in gardens in many parts of the world without any exceptional effort to modify the "local" soils wherever the plant is grown, other than to offer typical garden soils which may be quite unlike a serpentine environment."

 http://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/trillium-l/2014-February/022730.html

I have found they do quite well in our garden beds which are also quite unlike a serpentine environment.

Very beautiful seedlings Erle.  I'm hoping as more of my T-List seed opens, some will be as dark as yours.  Unfortunately, I never ordered seeds from JJA.

Julie