Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014

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The first of the autumn flowering narcissus has opened!
I got this as Narcissus serotinus but I think it's now considered to be Narcissus obsoletus.
The second pic clearly shows the lobed corona,
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fermi

[annew]

Delightful, Fermi - as our narcissus season comes to a close, yours begins again!

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Yesterday the Victorian Daffodil Society had a guest speaker at our meeting: Lawrence Trevanion from Canberra who has been doing a lot of breeding with different sections and brought some examples of autumn flowering daffs with N. elegans in their pedigree. I think he said that he'll be putting something on Daff.net at sometime. Here are a few of the cut-flowers he allowed me to take home, which I photographed this morning (warning in advance - blue skies evident in these pics!!!  )
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fermi

[Gerdk]

Fermi,
What a colourful flower! When I admire your pics I start to look forward to autumn although we experience a delightful spring!

Gerd

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Yes, Gerd, just as I'm enjoying the spring pics from your side of the equator!

This is the Narcissus viridiflorus I picked to take to the meeting (2 pics) and the next 2 pics are of another of Lawrence's - I think it's N. miniatus,
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fermi

[Maggi Young]

Yesterday the Victorian Daffodil Society had a guest speaker at our meeting: Lawrence Trevanion from Canberra who has been doing a lot of breeding with different sections and brought some examples of autumn flowering daffs with N. elegans in their pedigree. I think he said that he'll be putting something on Daff.net at sometime. Here are a few of the cut-flowers he allowed me to take home, which I photographed this morning (warning in advance - blue skies evident in these pics!!!  )
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fermi

How interesting. Great flowers too - now, the BIG question - do they smell as good as they look?

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How interesting. Great flowers too - now, the BIG question - do they smell as good as they look?

The scent is great, Maggi!
We've got them in the house at the moment and they're a lot more pleasant than straight Narcissus tazetta or Paperwhites.
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fermi

[Anthony Darby]

Very early for viridiflorus. Mine didn't make an appearance until the end of April last year.

[Paul T]

Fermi,

I have what I think is now obsoletus (which I received as miniatus) flowering very well for me here.  Thanks Hans J for the original seed.  They're doing brilliantly.  N. viridiflorus is something I have never managed to grow successfully, it usually peters out, or at the very least completely fails to flower.  I'm not sure I even have it any more.  A real shame, as I would love to grow it successfully. 

Actually, while we're on the subject of autumn flowering Narcs..... does anyone here in Australia grow N. cavanillesii?  It is an unusual species that has no cup/trumpet to speak of, and looks almost more like an autumn crocus in appearance.  Does anyone here actually grow it?  Perhaps I should put this in a separate topic asking people whether it is here in Australia?  Thanks for any information anyone can give me as to whereabouts in Aus. 

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Paul,
please post a pic of your N. obsoletus to compare with mine.
Here are a few more Narcissus oboletus in flower in another pot and the Narcissus viridiflorus clump in the garden,
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fermi

[Anthony Darby]

Quite a vigorous form of obsoletus. So unlike the tiny flowers on single stemmed plants growing wild in Ibiza.

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.. So unlike the tiny flowers on single stemmed plants growing wild in Ibiza.

Those might've been "partied out" 
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fermi

[Anthony Darby]

I managed to avoid that side of Ibiza.  I don't understand the people who party all night and sleep (if that's the word) all day. Why bother spending the money on airfare, except that European air travel is ludicrously cheap.

[Paul T]

I find that they vary from year to year in substance and breadth of petals.  I think it depends on feeding etc.  Mine are very similar to your first ones, but I adore that later pic..... they do look so much more substantial and uniform that I have to wonder whether they are just a superior form.  Well done.  I can't grow viridiflorus..... can't work out why but I've tried it and failed a few times.    I wish I could work out why.

Interestingly, after reading your post about your Lawrence T from Canberra giving you a talk..... I visited his garden later that afternoon for the first time in something like 20 years.  He has some lovely stuff out in flower at the moment.  I haven't processed the pictures, but I took a few photos while there.

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One of Lawrence's hybrids, 'First Stanza' is now in flower in our garden (and this one in a pot) - might be the same as one of the cut-flowers I showed earlier.
Paul,
this clump of Narcissus viridiflorus was planted 12 years ago - a few bulbs I bought from fellow forumist Gordon Julian when we visited his garden in Tasmania. I'd tried to establish it twice before without success so I'm glad these settled in so well,
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fermi