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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #75 on: October 29, 2014, 06:47:02 AM »
And some more:
Narcissus elegans, Narcissus elegans IB, Narcissus x alleniae and Narcissus x perezlarae
It is really a pitty I hardly can see them - but I enjoy the fragrance at night. :)

Beautiful flowers, Hans :D
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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #76 on: October 29, 2014, 06:58:40 AM »
Narcissus 'Autumn Little Moon', a Komoriya Nursery hybrid. Parentage: N. rupicola × N. serotinus

Some formists asked me how to make contact with the Komoriya Nursery.
Here is the nursery shop URL in eBay: http://www.ebay.com/usr/komoriya_nursery
The nursery staff told me that they will sell some narcissus bulbs at eBay shop next June. They can export the bulbs from Japan to overseas.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2014, 07:17:16 AM by YT »
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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #77 on: October 29, 2014, 07:45:48 AM »
You can only import seeds to New Zealand.
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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #78 on: October 29, 2014, 08:20:30 AM »
Of couse depends on the condition at your country, Anthony ;) NZ, AUS and US authorities requier very strict phytosanitary standards to plants from overseas :(
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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #79 on: October 29, 2014, 08:43:28 AM »
So far no one has actually come forth to say they are certified to send bulbs here.  :( Perhaps one day? Meanwhile, I have six months to wait and see if my seedlings will flower this time.
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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #80 on: October 29, 2014, 09:10:09 AM »
Jo,

The area you have indicated is within the distribution of N. obsoletus,
you can see the maps of distribution of the different species here:

http://www.anthos.es/index.php?lang=en

Thanks for the link Oron, I was obviously in the east of Spain and it was N. obseletus that I found.  It also shows me that we were far too far east for N. viridiflorus which looks as if it only occurs over by Gibralter.  So I'm glad we didn't miss it.
I have Cyclamen persicum autumnale in flower at home from seed via John, it smells lovely, thanks ! Reminds me of that wood near Tel Aviv.
No David, in the end it was the opposite direction for us so we went towards a National Park that way.

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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #81 on: October 30, 2014, 09:01:20 PM »
Hans, what a beautiful clumps! here there are also blooming all the autumn narcissi, included N. antiatlanticus, for first time, but I am not sure about this taxon.

Narcissus serotinus and N. obsoletus are very different in my oppinion. There are many morphological differences and a very clear distribution. Here is a very good work of comparison from my friend Jose Quiles http://www.florasilvestre.es/mediterranea/Amaryllidaceae/Narcissus_serotinus.htm
Sevilla is the meeting point between both species and from there N. obsoletus goes towards to the east and N. serotinus goes towards to the west. I think in Morocco are quite mixed, more than in Spain...

Note: Anthos, concerning Narcissus it is more confusing than helpful, there are all mixed it's a pity as it was a very useful tool...
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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #82 on: October 31, 2014, 07:14:54 AM »
Hans, what a beautiful clumps! here there are also blooming all the autumn narcissi, included N. antiatlanticus, for first time, but I am not sure about this taxon.

Rafa,

Are there any photos of antiatlanticus from you?   --- please!

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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #83 on: October 31, 2014, 09:32:21 AM »
I've not come across that name before - would be interested in seeing it. If you plant it with N. atlanticus will they annihilate each other?
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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #84 on: October 31, 2014, 08:48:26 PM »
hahaha ;D yes! maybe it will be necessary to put them in different parts of the house.

Gerd I will try to make some fotos tomorrow

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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #85 on: November 02, 2014, 01:48:36 PM »
Got this from a well known UK Rare Bulb nursery as Narcissus pachybolbus, and the original bulb was huge. Some 10 years later smaller offsets are flowering, but how do you tell it from N. papyraceus/N. panizzianus?
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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #86 on: November 02, 2014, 05:18:40 PM »
some daffodils from middle and end of October

1. + 2. Narcissus serotinus - see colour and shape of tube
3. Narcissus miniatus/obsoletus from Crete
4. Narcissus miniatus x tazetta from Israel
5. Narcissus x alleniae - a form very near to miniatus

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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #87 on: November 02, 2014, 05:22:04 PM »
- and some more

1. Narcisus x alleniae - whitish
2. - 4.  Narcissus viridiflorus - please note different shaped flowers

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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #88 on: November 02, 2014, 06:28:23 PM »
Fabulous. N. viridiflorus seems to be very difficult to obtain - if anyone can spare a bulb I would be most grateful!
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Re: Autumn Flowering Narcissus 2014
« Reply #89 on: November 03, 2014, 08:00:13 AM »
Fabulous. N. viridiflorus seems to be very difficult to obtain - if anyone can spare a bulb I would be most grateful!

Grows like a weed for me, but my bulbs are still in leaf.
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