We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Narcissus January 2008  (Read 32825 times)

Lvandelft

  • Spy out IN the cold
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Country: nl
  • Dutch Master
Narcissus January 2008
« on: January 12, 2008, 04:27:01 PM »
Today on only 300 m. from my house I made this picture of N. Rijnveld's Early Sensation.
Luit van Delft, right in the heart of the beautiful flowerbulb district, Noordwijkerhout, Holland.

Sadly Luit died on 14th October 2016 - happily we can still enjoy his posts to the Forum

ian mcenery

  • Maverick Midlander
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1590
  • Country: 00
  • Always room for another plant
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2008, 05:51:08 PM »
Here is my very small group of Cedric Morris which has been floering since before Xmas. Last year it stayed in perfect condition for 2 months what a star
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield  West Midlands 600ft above sea level

ian mcenery

  • Maverick Midlander
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1590
  • Country: 00
  • Always room for another plant
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2008, 05:59:01 PM »
I meant to add this one in a trough facing the weather. last year it had 10 flowers and flowered in November. It is now  a shadow of its former self. The bottom picture shows it last year. Is it trying to tell me something?
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield  West Midlands 600ft above sea level

David Nicholson

  • Hawkeye
  • Journal Access Group
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 13117
  • Country: england
  • Why can't I play like Clapton
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2008, 06:18:00 PM »
too damp and cool last Summer, possibly?
David Nicholson
in Devon, UK  Zone 9b
"Victims of satire who are overly defensive, who cry "foul" or just winge to high heaven, might take pause and consider what exactly it is that leaves them so sensitive, when they were happy with satire when they were on the side dishing it out"

dominique

  • River Dweller
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 554
  • Country: 00
  • passionated by bulbs since 1978,
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2008, 10:29:19 PM »
Thanks Luit and Ian for these two daffodils. Where can I buy (or by exchange) and find Cedric Morris ?
Ian, I see to day too Narcissus romieuxii in some subspecies or varieties. Marvellous at this time of the year. One of my mesatlanticus have a flower without corona and perianthe !!!
do

Pontoux France

Luc Gilgemyn

  • VRV President & Channel Hopper
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5528
  • Country: be
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2008, 10:13:23 AM »
I agree with David, Ian -
Funny season last year, with first the heat of March/April that made the bulbs go into dormancy much earlier than they should have, followed by the wet/chilly Summer instead of their preferred sunbaking regime.  ???
Luc Gilgemyn
Harelbeke - Belgium

David Shaw

  • SRGC Publications Manager
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1228
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2008, 10:51:34 AM »
I would echo the thoughts of David and Luc. We have very few buds showing and I put this down to the lack of sumer baking.
It is a bit difficult to tell at the moment because of the very low temperatures that we have had for a month now, most unusual. Nothing is moving and I daren't water as I would normally be doing.
David Shaw, Forres, Moray, Scotland

ian mcenery

  • Maverick Midlander
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1590
  • Country: 00
  • Always room for another plant
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2008, 12:24:29 PM »
I hope you are all right about the affect of last years weather on the narcissus as my ones in pots don't look too good either. Funnily enough my autumn crocus were also poor but the spring ones look more hopeful  ???  Listening to others experience I am glad it isn't due entirely to my incompetence
Ian McEnery Sutton Coldfield  West Midlands 600ft above sea level

Lvandelft

  • Spy out IN the cold
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Country: nl
  • Dutch Master
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2008, 03:26:27 PM »
I would echo the thoughts of David and Luc. We have very few buds showing and I put this down to the lack of sumer baking.

Hello all, I can tell you that I grow mine in trays or pots outside with only lights on when lower than -3 C.
About the end of May I take the trays out and put them somewhere dry and warm (glasshouse out of sun or shed)
There the average temps duriong summer will be at least above 20 C. The end of September I replace them outside
into the soil, where they flower very well every year
Here's a picture from today, they started to flower in November.
Luit van Delft, right in the heart of the beautiful flowerbulb district, Noordwijkerhout, Holland.

Sadly Luit died on 14th October 2016 - happily we can still enjoy his posts to the Forum

Gerdk

  • grower of sweet violets
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2929
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2008, 08:08:27 PM »
Hello all, I can tell you that I grow mine in trays or pots outside with only lights on when lower than -3 C.
About the end of May I take the trays out and put them somewhere dry and warm (glasshouse out of sun or shed)
There the average temps duriong summer will be at least above 20 C. The end of September I replace them outside
into the soil, where they flower very well every year
Here's a picture from today, they started to flower in November.

Luit,
it's impressive to see the results of controlled conditions during the resting stage even after a wet and cold summer.
Thank you for sharing your experience.

Gerd
Gerd Knoche, Solingen
Germany

Lvandelft

  • Spy out IN the cold
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Country: nl
  • Dutch Master
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2008, 09:53:09 PM »
For those who love Narcissus, here's an old picture from 1905.
It's from William Robinson's Flora and Sylva.
I put in a piece of interesting text too.
Would like to know if Lord Kitchener is still in cultivation? It was still in the seventies...!
Hope you like it.
Luit van Delft, right in the heart of the beautiful flowerbulb district, Noordwijkerhout, Holland.

Sadly Luit died on 14th October 2016 - happily we can still enjoy his posts to the Forum

Paddy Tobin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4463
  • Country: 00
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2008, 11:05:21 PM »
Very interesting post, Luit.

Isn't the quality of the illustration fabulous. Beats photography, I think.

Paddy
Paddy Tobin, Waterford, Ireland

https://anirishgardener.wordpress.com/

Lvandelft

  • Spy out IN the cold
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3785
  • Country: nl
  • Dutch Master
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2008, 07:13:44 PM »
Last week I showed Narcissus moschata (In the Mid-Winter-Fowershow) an today I saw at the weekly flowershow in Lisse this very old (probably) selection of it: N. W.P. Milner, which was already registered in 1869, and still in culture!
Luit van Delft, right in the heart of the beautiful flowerbulb district, Noordwijkerhout, Holland.

Sadly Luit died on 14th October 2016 - happily we can still enjoy his posts to the Forum

Maggi Young

  • Forum Dogsbody
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44770
  • Country: scotland
  • "There's often a clue"
    • International Rock Gardener e-magazine
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2008, 08:59:31 PM »
Narcissus W. P. Milner is a favourite of mine. It is easier to grow and source,  than N. moschatus and its strength as a good plant is obvious from its long life in cultivation and commerce. There are not so many varieties lasting so long. A real success story, isn't it?
Margaret Young in Aberdeen, North East Scotland Zone 7 -ish!

Editor: International Rock Gardener e-magazine

mark smyth

  • Hopeless Galanthophile
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15254
  • Country: gb
Re: Narcissus January 2008
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2008, 09:05:56 AM »
I like it also. It's available in all garden centres in the autumn
Antrim, Northern Ireland Z8
www.snowdropinfo.com / www.marksgardenplants.com / www.saveourswifts.co.uk

When the swifts arrive empty the green house

All photos taken with a Canon 900T and 230

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal