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angie

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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2014, 09:13:48 PM »
A good flowering year for my Massonia and all have larger leaves than usual;
M. depressa
M. pustulata,
M. echinata
M. jasminiflora x pustulata -  a deliberate cross I made and pleased with it.

Now what more could you ask for  8) just so lovely.

Angie  :)
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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2014, 05:11:43 PM »
A bulb acquired from Paul Cumbleton this year: Massonia jasminiflora tenella and Massonia echinata hirsuta which I got from Rannveig Wallis - something has been munching the leaves!

Edit 10th December 2014. Paul Cumbleton has emailed me to tell me that the plant shown here as Massonia jasminiflora (second picture) has been identified as being Massonia tenella.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2014, 07:32:51 PM by johnralphcarpenter »
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angie

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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2014, 05:41:50 PM »
A couple of bulbs acquired from Paul Cumbleton this year: Massonia jasminiflora and Massonia echinata - something has been munching the leaves!

Oh thats so annoying, still at least they left the flower  :)

Angie  :)
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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2014, 07:59:27 PM »
Taken in our low light levels today.

Massonia echinata
Arnold Trachtenberg
Leonia, New Jersey

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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2014, 08:47:08 PM »
Great plant Arnold
John, Toynton St Peter Lincolnshire

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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2014, 02:56:51 AM »
Thanks you.  I'll get a better image if the sun ever comes out.
Arnold Trachtenberg
Leonia, New Jersey

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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2014, 04:16:20 PM »
Sun out today.

Massonia echinata
Arnold Trachtenberg
Leonia, New Jersey

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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2014, 05:12:03 PM »
Doesn't look anything like mine!
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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2014, 08:10:48 PM »
I agree, they look quite different.

See here for some similar images.

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Massonia

Arnold Trachtenberg
Leonia, New Jersey

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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2014, 08:59:35 PM »
Great article Arnold
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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2014, 10:57:01 PM »
Doesn't look anything like mine!

Yes, I'm getting confused with these different forms of echinata. Paul identified the one I posted a photo of as hirsuta but it doesn't seem that different to yours, in that both have a pinkish tinge (echinata has white flowers) and dark pollen. But yours came from Paul labelled as echinata...? Perhaps there's a lot of hybrids in circulation?
Steve Walters, West Yorkshire

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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2014, 09:16:49 AM »
Arnold`s has yellow pollen, mine has a pink tinge and blue pollen, so it is either a very variable species or one of them isn't echinata. If Paul is around maybe he could comment?
Ralph Carpenter near Ashford, Kent, UK. USDA Zone 8 (9 in a good year)

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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2014, 12:14:32 PM »
Here's three plants that I thought were M. echinata but may be M. hirsuta.
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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2014, 03:23:16 PM »
Ralph I agree that the one labelled echinata is not that, but probably is hirsuta. Sorry if you got that from me wrongly labelled (though I don't actually remember selling any echinata this year). Having learnt how easily the Massonias hybridise I now take care to isolate plants I am propagating and will not be selling in future anything that I have not first flowered to confirm its identity.
Steve, I also think your plants are hirsuta as you suspect.

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Re: Massonia echinata
« Reply #59 on: December 08, 2014, 04:52:15 PM »
Ralph I agree that the one labelled echinata is not that, but probably is hirsuta. Sorry if you got that from me wrongly labelled (though I don't actually remember selling any echinata this year). Having learnt how easily the Massonias hybridise I now take care to isolate plants I am propagating and will not be selling in future anything that I have not first flowered to confirm its identity.
Steve, I also think your plants are hirsuta as you suspect.
Paul

Thanks for the confirmation, Paul. I also grow the Massonia species in circulation as the ex Addo form (Burdach 11282?). Any idea which species this may be? Looks very similar to the hirsuta I have although I'm not discounting hybridisation!
Steve Walters, West Yorkshire

 


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