November 2014 snowdrops

[Tony Willis]

I don't know this one.

That is because I have typed the wrong name-sorry

[ian mcenery]

Nice Tony

I wonder if there is a real difference with these or is where they are growing?./ Here is a Reg olgae out at the moment which always flowers here late November and early December

[ian mcenery]

And a couple more

Elw Peter Gatehouse
Elw Barnes

[Tony Willis]

Nice Tony

I wonder if there is a real difference with these or is where they are growing?./ Here is a Reg olgae out at the moment which always flowers here late November and early December

Ian non at all they are both white with green bits as David N. would say.

It is interesting that one of the true galanthophiles rang me and said'why are you calling it that'  and I replied 'because that is what you put on the label when you gave it to me!'

Last year it flowered at the end of December into January.

I see from my records that my r-o have over the years flowered from mid September up to the beginning of February. There is no consistency.

[Brian Ellis]

'Remember Remember' was on time this year and is still in flower but Advent has come early.  The first Sunday in Advent is November 30th but here today is Galanthus  elwesii var. elwesii 'Advent' nearly a fortnight earlier!  Found in the garden of Mary Parry in Redisham Suffolk hence the synonym 'Mary's early'.

[Alan_b]

'Advent' is a new one on me, Brian.  Early elwesiis that aren't monostictus are relatively rare - as I'm sure you know.

[mark smyth]

Stupid question maybe but could 'Advent' be a monostictus Hiemalis Group with two marks?

Spotted my lone surviving G. trancaucasicus 'November Snow' today. I'm sure it would be happier anywhere but facing north. The first of my G. snogerupii are now open - only two flowers last year but 7 this year

[Alan_b]

The term elwesii 'Hiemalis Group' applies only to elwesii var. monostictus types.  John Grimshaw once corrected me over this and I have not forgotten.  Monostictus literally means single mark and elwesii var. monostictus is applied to elwesii with an "inner segment marking on apical half or less".

So a monostictus with two marks should be a contradiction in terms - but then there is 'Deer Slot' where the normal mark is split in two.  I don't think 'Advent' is such, Mark.   

[Brian Ellis]

Galanthus elwesii var elwesii 'Advent' first appears here:

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6017.msg172311#msg172311

[Alan_b]

Thanks, Brian.  I was amused to see (on the same page) that even back in 2010 I was enquiring after early-flowering snowdrops.  I guess I have been interested in those for longer than I remember.

[Brian Ellis]

It was available at Myddleton House last year:

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9587.msg265180#msg265180

[Alan_b]

It was available at Myddleton House last year:

From Michael Broadhurst, presumably?  I guess I should be making a wants list of early-flowering snowdrops so I recognise more of the names. 

[Brian Ellis]

From Michael Broadhurst, presumably?  I guess I should be making a wants list of early-flowering snowdrops so I recognise more of the names.

I have no idea as I didn't go.  I would think that if you want more of any type of snowdrop it would be sensible to make a wants list, who sells it and how much you are prepared to pay.  You could even see if you could swap as you have found some nice 'drops yourself.

[Alan_b]

You're absolutely right, Brian.  And I would far rather swap than buy.

[carolesmith]

Came home from my hols to discover 'Santa Claus" has been and gone - don't think I will tell the grandchildren.
In the meantime 'Snogerupi' has just come in to flower.  It is so good to come home and check what is happening - unfortunately huge amounts of leaves to clean up but that means an ongoing supply of leafmould so I am not really complaining.