Question ...does anyone grow Galanthus trojanus ?

[emma T]

No confused that Steve took his photo down , was it trojanus or "Trojan" ? Is it the same thing ? . Good to know it's out there . Will try and track down seed or a bulb for work

[Maggi Young]

There has been confusion in the past about Galanthus trojanus   and Galanthus 'Trojan' - Oakwood showed  Galanthus trojanus on the previos page of this thread and here is the link to a photo of G. 'Trojan' on Mark's snowdrop gallery : http://www.snowdropinfo.com/galanthus%20trojan.html

[Alan_b]

Calling a snowdrop 'Trojan' when there is a species trojanus is almost as confusing as calling two snowdrops 'Ruby Baker'.  Or was it the other way around and 'Trojan' came first?

[Maggi Young]

Galanthus trojanus A.P.Davis & Özhatay  original publication details: Bot. J. Linn. Soc. 137: 409 2001.

Kew Herbarium specimen shows seed was collected in 1997 and at first wasdifficult to properly identify....

http://citesbulbs.myspecies.info/sites/citesbulbs.myspecies.info/files/Davis%20%26%20Ozhatay%202001.pdf
 "We have, given this new Galanthus the name G.trojanus, after the ancient region of Troad in north- western Turkey, which included within it the city of Troy. "

 -but  I know nothing of the cultivar 'Trojan' 

[mark smyth]

There has been confusion in the past about Galanthus trojanus   and Galanthus 'Trojan' - Oakwood showed  Galanthus trojanus on the previos page of this thread and here is the link to a photo of G. 'Trojan' on Mark's snowdrop gallery : http://www.snowdropinfo.com/galanthus%20trojan.html

I didn't know I had a photo of 'Trojan'. I'll look it up and see where I took it - if I did

[mark smyth]

Taken in Feb 2011 during the Galanthus Gala weekend

[Maggi Young]

I didn't know I had a photo of 'Trojan'. I'll look it up and see where I took it - if I did

 Well, in 2012 you said in the forum that you'd seen the plant and photographed it with the name 'Trojan' : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8500.msg230012#msg230012 in response to Hans J.  in the previous post in that thread.

Steve O.  showed a photo of Trojan in this thread- which he has since removed.   In 2012 he wrote  that he grew the plant which he didn't think had anything to do with G.  trojanus : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8282.msg225030#msg225030
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8282.msg225030#msg225030

[Anthony Darby]

Seems a "Trojan" has infected the trojanus thread. 

[emma T]

I will just get some seed of trojanus

[Alan_b]

If you watch Antiques Roadshow, the experts like to refer to the provenance of an antique but when it comes to snowdrops we don't seem to care so much about provenance.  I think we should.  It seems that Galathus 'Trojan' was sold by an unidentified vendor at the Galanthus Gala in 2011 (and Steve Owen bought one).  We know so little about it that it seems quite likely that it originates from that vendor.  If it has never been "written-up" to formalise the name then it would not be a bad idea to change it to avoid confusion with the species trojanus.  Perhaps 'Warrior' would be an apt substitution for 'Trojan'?  Not that it looks very remarkable in Mark's photograph http://www.snowdropinfo.com/galanthus%20trojan.html - perhaps it's large?     

[Matt Bishop]

It seems that Galathus 'Trojan' was sold by an unidentified vendor at the Galanthus Gala in 2011 (and Steve Owen bought one).  We know so little about it that it seems quite likely that it originates from that vendor.  If it has never been "written-up" to formalise the name then it would not be a bad idea to change it to avoid confusion with the species trojanus.  Perhaps 'Warrior' would be an apt substitution for 'Trojan'?

I happened to mention this thread to Richard Bashford this morning and, as it turns out 'Trojan' was on of his own selections 'early on' chosen for its bulk and ability to increase and make a show in the 'S. Arnott' vein of things. Visitors to the garden admired the clone and it were given bulbs. At some point the name 'Trojan' was attached inspired by the phrase 'works like a Trojan' in the context of its value as a good garden plant. Its has nothing to do with G. trojanus and TBH I don't see a problem with both names being in use at the same. But I imagine its originator might be a bit miffed at someone suggesting alternative names for his snowdrop without first asking him!

[johnstephen29]

Hi Emma have you seen my previous post about trojanus seeds and who is selling them?

[emma T]

Hi Emma have you seen my previous post about trojanus seeds and who is selling them?

I have , thank you .

My boss might be buying them for his collection   

I love my job 

[emma T]

It seems that Galathus 'Trojan' was sold by an unidentified vendor at the Galanthus Gala in 2011 (and Steve Owen bought one).  We know so little about it that it seems quite likely that it originates from that vendor.  If it has never been "written-up" to formalise the name then it would not be a bad idea to change it to avoid confusion with the species trojanus.  Perhaps 'Warrior' would be an apt substitution for 'Trojan'?

I happened to mention this thread to Richard Bashford this morning and, as it turns out 'Trojan' was on of his own selections 'early on' chosen for its bulk and ability to increase and make a show in the 'S. Arnott' vein of things. Visitors to the garden admired the clone and it were given bulbs. At some point the name 'Trojan' was attached inspired by the phrase 'works like a Trojan' in the context of its value as a good garden plant. Its has nothing to do with G. trojanus and TBH I don't see a problem with both names being in use at the same. But I imagine its originator might be a bit miffed at someone suggesting alternative names for his snowdrop without first asking him!

Thank you Matt for the history of 'Trojan'

[Brian Ellis]

I have to admit I agree with Matt, why would anyone confuse the names - they are quite distinct...unlike the Ruby Bakers.