Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)

[arisaema]

Some pics from this summer and autumn, IDs would be greatly appreciated 

I'll start with the one that's  not  from Nujiang, but from Tianchi lake in Zhongdian. Rhododendron phaeochrysum?



From the western slopes of BiluoXueshan, near Fugong;

Small epiphytic species on fallen tree, 3200m:





Larger species growing on soggy slope, 3750m:

[arisaema]

Lovely red growing on Heipushan, between Gongshan and Dulongjiang, 3350m:

[arisaema]

...and finally, species growing at Yaping Yakou, at the Myanmar border, near Fugong (all around 3650m):

Rh. campylogynum:




Rh. mekongense?:




...and the rest I'd rather leave for  the experts:

Yaping type 1:





Yaping 2, presumably a well fed version of the species above?



Yaping  3, same species, different colour form:



Yaping 4:




Yaping 5:




Yaping 6:

[Susan Band]

They look like good garden plants, especially the peachy coloured one next to the lilium. If you need names try Jens neilson, he will probably know. I think he has just started at a garden which grows a lot of rodos from wild seed.
Susan

[Maggi Young]

Bjornar, I hope Johnw, will be able to help and he  may be so kind as to contact Jens Birck and Jens Neilson  and others to help 

[johnw]

I'll advise Jens Birck.

The yellow is certainly mekongense var. melinanthum The red in the cliff neriiflorum or sanguineum - time of year?  The first photo yes I'd agree phaeo but underside would determine the var.  Yaping 1-4 either dichroanthum or aperantum, likely the former.  The epiphyte looks a bit like moupinense but I won't commit.  The dwarf purple is Maggi's realm keleticum or a Saluenensia.

This is one of Jens Nielsen's haunts but he is away I think.

johnw - 8c and rain

[arisaema]

The red in the cliff neriiflorum or sanguineum - time of year?

Thanks! Pictures from Dulongjiang and flowers in Yaping June 29th to June 30th, so presumably R. sanguineum?

[johnw]

Jens Birck says "I agree with all the names you have come up with.  re: the "aganniphum/pharochryseum" it is as you say, one has to have it
in one's hands to guess anything"   

That cliff-dwelling sanguineum is likely sanguineum ssp sanguineum.

johnw - +14c, breezy & sunny

[Lesley Cox]

Bjornar, you don't mention the little lily or the lovely blue thing with Rh. campylogynum. Is that a Codonopsis?

[arisaema]

Jens Birck says "I agree with all the names you have come up with.  re: the "aganniphum/pharochryseum" it is as you say, one has to have it
in one's hands to guess anything"   

Thank you very much for this! Regarding the R. moupinense, wouldn't Nujiang be too far southwest? If I go back next summer and it's still there I'll try to get more pictures.

[arisaema]

Bjornar, you don't mention the little lily or the lovely blue thing with Rh. campylogynum. Is that a Codonopsis?

I thought I had posted the lily already, but it's quite lovely so I'll post it again here  The blue would be an Anemone of some sort, but it was raining so hard I couldn't get a good picture of it.

[tonyg]

I thought I had posted the lily already, but it's quite lovely so I'll post it again here  The blue would be an Anemone of some sort, but it was raining so hard I couldn't get a good picture of it.

Looks a nice picture to me - maybe Anemone truliifola?
The lily is to die for beautiful!

[johnw]

Only "looks a bit like moupinense" with the red buds, I should have said I have no idea what it is.

Where do the new EU regulations leave the seedexs of those who collect in the wild?  I see the RHS Rhodo Group has suspended all sales of newly cw seed.

johnw

[johnralphcarpenter]

I thought I had posted the lily already, but it's quite lovely so I'll post it again here  The blue would be an Anemone of some sort, but it was raining so hard I couldn't get a good picture of it.

Is it Lilium yapingense?

[arisaema]

JohnW;  all names and nudges in the right direction are appreciated, I'm terrible at identifying Rhodos, there's just too many of them - especially in this area.

John R.; Yes, that's L. yapingense. There's a new species of Nomocharis growing in the same area, a giant compared to the lily, with some  plants nearly 2 meters tall.