Lilium kesselringianum?

[JPB]

This flower appeared on a plant labeled as Lilium kesselringianum from West Caucasus, Russia. But it doesn't look like L. kesselrinianum....
Any thoughts? Thanks, Hans

[Susan Band]

It doesn't look like any Russian species. Did the seed come from Russia?  It looks more like an american, perhaps kelleyanum written badly? What does the bulb look like?

[Rick R.]

And the leaves and stem.  What do they look like?

[gote]

Yes leaves and stem is needed and also bulb if possible.
All americans have bulbs that grow more or less horizontally.
To me it looks like L.davidii willmottie but I have no reference material where I am today.
Kesselringianum it definitely is not.
We have to remember that there are many hybrids out there as well.
Happy new year
Göte

[Lesley Cox]

Not sure myself, but I would have thought it is an American species, probably western American. Ahat is the bulb like? And in any case, the name should (I think) be L. kesselringii. Yes? No?

[arilnut]

From PBS wiki.
Some botanists think this is not the case and that the formally classified lilies Lilium szovitsianum and Lilium kesselringianum are simply geographic variants of Lilium monadelphum

Lilium monadelphum is from the Caucasus on forest margins and slopes.

John B

[JPB]

Thanks for your replies! Yes, I bought the seed as "wild collected". My own impression was that it looked a lot like my L. pardalinum, but that is a plant from the NW US...

Unfortunately, I did not make pictures of the leaves, but I just made a picture of the bulb (see below).

[Lesley Cox]

That's an interesting picture. It suggests to me an American species, as many of those have bulbs made up of bulblets, like those of the American Fritillaria species. Of course species from other places may have the same construction, I don't know.

[Susan Band]

Pretty sure it is kelleyanum. It has bulbs like that, the other which has a similar flower is L columbiana which has more conventional bulbs. Lilium pardalinium has the same bulbs but usually has more red about it.
Susan

[JPB]

So it was not a misidentification in the field but a mix up after collection. I'm glad to know what its real name is. Thanks for your help!

[Maggi Young]

My good friends Ian and Roma Smith - well known for their wide travels in their camper-van - have sent this photo of Lilium kesselringianum, pictured in the  Bakuriani Botanical Garden in Central Georgia.

 

[gote]

Yes
After having seen the bulb pic I agree, this is certainly an American species
Cheers
Göte

[Leena]

That is a beautiful lily in Maggi's picture! I had sown L.kesselringianum last winter from SRGC seed exchange seeds, and they germinated in summer, I so hope they look like that some day.

[gote]

The monadelphum/kesselringianum/sowitzianums are very beautiful and do well in shade. In my experience  they dislike moving so be careful to get them in the right place.
Cheers
Göte 

[Leena]

The monadelphum/kesselringianum/sowitzianums are very beautiful and do well in shade. In my experience  they dislike moving so be careful to get them in the right place.

I had about five seedlings in one pot, and I planted them as a clump in the ground late last summer (they germinated in May). I was thinking of keeping them growing together undisturbed for a year or two and then separate the bulbs, but what would be the best time to do it?