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David Nicholson

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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #105 on: February 22, 2015, 06:47:43 PM »
I've read the description (and looked at the photograph) of C x wellensiekii in Grey-Wilson and it does look very similar to my plant in all respects but he  describes the scent as a mild form of C libanoticum ("but the hybrid has not inherited the sweeter perfume of C pseudibericum")

It's been a confusing sort of day! The description I read, and quoted above from Grey-Wilson, actually related to Cyclamen x schwarzii, I got confused because the picture of x wellensiekii happens to be on the preceding page to his description. I should have read the page properly before spouting, sorry.

Right, I'm now in the G-W description of x wellensiekii. He says "Flowers borne with the young or mature leaves (late September to December)" and here we are in late February. He also says "sweetly scented" mine have no scent at all.

Thanks Ian,  for your input. I have no doubt that my plant is not C. libanoticum but I'm still confused about it being x wellensiekii for the reasons stated in my penultimate paragraph above.
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #106 on: February 23, 2015, 09:22:36 AM »
David don't be too confused seasons can differ mine started in December and is still in flower now. After all this is a hybrid between an autumn and a spring flowering plant and is not a clonal strain all being raised from seed.
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #107 on: February 23, 2015, 11:57:44 AM »
Thanks Ian, labels amended.
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #108 on: February 23, 2015, 12:16:44 PM »
I think Chris is probably wrong. Bear in mind C.cyprium is usually quoted in books as being autumn flowered but I've had it overlapping with libanoticum and pseudo-ibericum because the flowers last for a really long time.

The hybrid is much rarer than libanoticum and I've found it harder to germinate than either parent so it's time to celebrate. I have some seedlings at last but it took years to get them!
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #109 on: February 23, 2015, 02:47:21 PM »
I'm quite chuffed with it really Mark. My records show that I have another seedling from the same batch of seed, it will be interesting to see how that turns out.
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #110 on: February 24, 2015, 05:19:58 AM »
The first Cyclamen graecum is in bloom in our rock garden,
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #111 on: February 24, 2015, 08:10:10 AM »
Very nice Fermi, one of these days I might get a flower on mine!
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #112 on: February 24, 2015, 09:33:14 AM »
Nice one Fermi. Where did you get this plant? It looks much like those I saw at Rhodopou in Crete.
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #113 on: February 25, 2015, 09:48:19 AM »
Hi Matt,
I'm pretty sure this is one of the seedlings I raised from NARGS Seedex 2005 donated by Ellen Horning from New York. That's all the provenance I have for them unfortunately.
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #114 on: February 25, 2015, 09:56:12 AM »
I found just a very few seeds in Crete of the form similar to yours, Fermi and pictured here. No sign of germination yet, but here's hoping.
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #115 on: February 25, 2015, 11:55:19 PM »
....It looks much like those I saw at Rhodopou in Crete.

This will be Cyclamen graecum ssp graecum. I believe that the graecum growing on the Rhodopou peninsula show a wide variation in leaf and flower, although the form sold commercially as 'Rhodopou' has pewter/silver leaves (similar to 'Glyfada').
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #116 on: February 26, 2015, 07:15:11 AM »
Yes, it keyed out as graecum graecum Steve. All the plants we saw in this population were quite similar in terms of flower form, with just a very slight variation in intensity of colour. However, we only found a couple of plants in leaf.
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #117 on: February 26, 2015, 12:35:06 PM »
I have half a dozen raised from one seed por I found on the Rhodopou peninsular. They do not have very interesting leaves but do have strong uproght flower stems which make them attractive plants.
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #118 on: February 26, 2015, 01:56:48 PM »
Cyclamen coum is flowering for more than 10 weeks now in my garden.
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Re: Cyclamen 2015
« Reply #119 on: February 26, 2015, 06:14:21 PM »
Some great pictures here from Jo Hynes' National Collection of Cyclamen :
https://plus.google.com/photos/116866201005739778197/albums/5299316557353369121?banner=pwa
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