FRITILLARIA 2015

[Maggi Young]

An interesting form, Frazer - very pretty.
It's  a form  that is seen in cultivation and is usually called walujewii but  some have doubts - it is lacking the longer twining tendrils and is a very distinct colour. Would love to know if it is truly a F. walujewii !

[FrazerHenderson]

I think there might be a tendril in this shot. The photo was taken in the wild.

[Maggi Young]

From the Nordic Journal of Botany's Facebook page:
A new species of Fritillaria (Liliaceae) has been found in Iran and is here described as F. avromanica. This novelity is closely related to the two subspecies usually recognized in F. assyriaca, of which F. assyriaca subsp. melananthera is here raised to the rank of species based on morphological, palynological and caryological characteristics. Morphologically, these three species differ in width and shape of the leaves, color of the perigon and anthers, and the size of the capsule. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/njb.00780/abstract

Fritillaria avromanica sp. nov. (Liliaeceae) from Iran and notes on F. melananthera in Turkey

    Mahfouz Advay, Mehtap Tekşen and Hosein Maroofi

Article first published online: 26 MAY 2015  DOI: 10.1111/njb.00780



http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1111/%28ISSN%291756-1051/earlyview

[Maggi Young]

I think there might be a tendril in this shot. The photo was taken in the wild.

Lovely !

Was thinking of other forum posts of F. walujewii and remembered this old Wisley Log  of Paul's , too :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2009Apr281240907882Log_9_of_2009.pdf

[Yann]

that's a killer! what a cutie   

[fermi de Sousa]

Waited 12 years for this to flower! It seems a nice form of Fritillaria acmopetala.
Pity it was seed labelled F. alfredae!
Someone suggested that it might be a hybrid,
cheers
fermi

[Yann]

patience is always rewarded but hey 12 years! I guess you spent all day around it 

[fermi de Sousa]

Hi Yann,
Sowing seed each year means there's always something new in flower!
This Frit just kept producing daughter bulbs but only last year did one bulb even look like it was flowering size. Not having grown F.alfredae before it made me believe I hadn't found the correct growing conditions for it. Then again, I've not managed to keep it going in the garden, so maybe I need to continue with it in pots!
cheers
fermi

[fermi de Sousa]

Fritillaria messanensis ssp messanensis came from Marcus Harvey a dozen years ago and continues to come up every year
cheers
fermi

[Arum]

Please could somebody identify these three fritillarias for me. I would like to replace their lost labels & do not want to guess.Thank you.
Edna

[Mark Griffiths]

hi, the first one might be sipthorpii because of the wide leaves, have a look inside, sibthorpii has a "fat pilose style" - that's a phrase that's stuck in my head for decades. I think the last is possibly meleagris.

[Ian Y]

First on could also be Fritillaria carica, as Mark  says much depends on the shape of the style, second one maybe a form of F. graeca and I agree with Mark on the third.

[Yann]

Does some of you own the pdf about Fritillaria avromanica?

[Maggi Young]

A  few pictures here :  https://www.researchgate.net/figure/277336812_fig4_Figure-2-Fritillaria-avromanica-sp.-nov.-%28a%29%28b%29-habit-%28c%29-flowers-%28d%29-tepals-pistil

 from
Fritillaria avromanica sp. nov. (Liliaceae) from Iran and notes on F. melananthera in Turkey
Mahfouz Advay, Mehtap Tekşen and Hosein Maroofi
Nordic Journal of Botany (2015)

Abstract
Fritillaria avromanica is described as a new species from Iran based on specimens collected from Hawraman. Taxonomic descriptions, illustrations, geographical distribution, habitat, ecology, and conservation status of the new species and the closely related F. assyriaca and F. melananthera are provided. In addition F. melananthera is given the rank of species, rather than being subspecies of F. assyriaca. The differences between F. melananthera and F. assyriaca are discussed with pollen and chromosomal characteristics

[Arum]

Thanks to you both, Mark & Ian. Much appreciated.
Edna