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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #75 on: November 06, 2015, 10:37:53 AM »
Spuira Iris Barleycorn
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2015, 01:14:36 PM »
Barleycorn's rather acid yellow is a good foil for the foliage, isn't it?
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #77 on: November 06, 2015, 02:05:47 PM »
I was sure that you'd comment on 'Buttered Chocolate', Maggi ;D
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #78 on: November 06, 2015, 02:45:18 PM »
Quote from: fermi on November 06, 2015, 02:05:47 PM
I was sure that you'd comment on 'Buttered Chocolate', Maggi ;D
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #79 on: November 06, 2015, 11:15:27 PM »
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #80 on: November 09, 2015, 08:49:58 PM »
This is a welcome sight on a gloomy November day, albeit later than David's in Devon.
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #81 on: November 09, 2015, 09:38:06 PM »
south wall Ralph?
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #82 on: November 09, 2015, 10:29:41 PM »
Well caught up Ralph.
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #83 on: November 09, 2015, 11:26:24 PM »
Quote from: Yann on November 09, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
south wall Ralph?
Yes, very warm and sunny.
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #84 on: November 09, 2015, 11:27:31 PM »
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #85 on: November 10, 2015, 09:24:00 AM »
By the way Ralph, if there was a prize for the tattiest plant mine would win.
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2015, 06:55:36 AM »
In southern Turkey, in pine forests at the Burning Stones (Chimeira or Yanartash) we saw an Iris in beautiful stocks for which only Iris unguicularis seems to fit. But they flowered very exposed above the tufts of leaves, while I otherwise only know pictures and descriptions with low standing flowers, often sunk-in in the foliage.

As the pictures show, the position of the flowers is not due to a long stem, but apparently the highly elongated pedicel or even the perianth tube (??). (photos taken in february)
There are also plants in the population, which show this elongation not quite as strong. (3rd pict.)

Does anyone know of such Iris types in southern Turkey or the eastern Mediterranean? Could it be the carica-taxon or the syriaca-taxon, both related to eg. included in I. unguicularis?

Many thanks
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #87 on: November 16, 2015, 09:05:27 AM »
Possibly Iris lazica
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #88 on: November 17, 2015, 10:28:28 AM »
I. lazica has dwarf, wider leaves with a bright green, distributed on the coast of the Black Sea.

For usual I. unguiculares the leaves are too long and the flower stem is tall and slender

Mayby a local form of I. unguicularis, which has got species or subspec. status ?

I know I. ung. subspec. carica from Rhodos, but it looks also very dwarf on open, sunny habitats.
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Re: Iris, non-bearded, 2015
« Reply #89 on: November 28, 2015, 07:44:13 PM »
David, Gerhard, thankyou for your comments. I. lazica i exclude too because of itīs restriction to the north-east of Turkey.
Well, it seems to be I. unguicularis in an undetermined subtaxon.
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