Crocus February 2008

[Guff]

Franz, Thomas, your meadow's are amazing.

One of my cats found my crocus pots that I brought up stairs the other day, and chewed a flower off. I see no pollen? These sterile?

[Viola]

Anomaly Flowers at C.napolitanus

[Viola]

What is this please?
Crocus spec. southern from Dubrovnic, Kroatien collect.

[Maggi Young]

Karl, I think that your crocus from Dubrovnik is a C. vernus.
see Hans J's post from Feb. 24th on page 25 of this thread : http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1286.msg33992;topicseen#msg33992 for C. vernus from Orjen.


New page started now for Crocus- March 2008 http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1460.0

[Viola]

Thank jou veri much, Maggy!

[Armin]

Sorry Maggi,
for me the first picture from Karl looks more like a form of C. tommasianus. The rounded flowers / shape resembles cultivar Barrs Purple. Also no dark stem.
What do the croconut specialists say?

[Viola]

Crocus heuffelianus or C.exiguus?
from Buzet, Kroatien

[tonyg]

Sorry Maggi,
for me the first picture from Karl looks more like a form of C. tommasianus. The rounded flowers / shape resembles cultivar Barrs Purple. Also no dark stem.
What do the croconut specialists say?

I had thought the same Armin - it does look like a C tommasinianus. 

[Thomas Huber]

Karl - many thanks for your beautiful photos!

Tony and Armin, you might be right, that Karl's Crocus looks like a tommi,
but please note the wide leaves!! Points for a vernus in my opinion! Crocus
vernus might have a coloured stem, but also white stems exist.

Franz, what a wonderful mixed lawn - I see many good hybrids worth to select!!

[Maggi Young]

I am still of the opinion that Karl's crocus (March 01, 2008, 05:58:19 PM Posted by: Viola )
 is a vernus...Ian thinks vernus also, so we agree with Thomas!

As to these new photos.... is C. exiguus not a synonym for C. vernus ssp. vernus and  C.heuffelianus a variant of C. vernus ssp vernus... so, all these names are  the same plant... merely depending on the botanist you are speaking to at the time 

Here, with such markings, I think we would label them heuffelianus..... or vernus!!    Whatever their name ,these are lovely forms and very good to see them in the wild.

[Gerry Webster]

Based on  BM's  description, C.tommasinianus seems likely -  especially the presence of a spotted & veined bract

[Thomas Huber]

Perhaps we both are right: It could also be a natural hybrid!?

Maggi, Brian Mathew states in his Crocus update (2001) that heuffelianus is a third subspecies of Crocus vernus.
Some days ago I posted a link to a German wikipedia site with more information about that theme.

[Maggi Young]

It could also be a natural hybrid!?

That would please everyone! 

I do not keep up very well with "current thinking" in matters botanical.... (well, at all, really  :-)\   ) so I must study Tomas' link....

[Armin]

Crocus heuffelianus or C.exiguus?
from Buzet, Kroatien

Lovely C.heuffelianus!

[Maggi Young]

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Photos to March 2008  http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1460.30
thank you!