Narcissus February 08

[Gerry Webster]

Narcissus x litigiosus (N. x susannae; N.  x munozii-garmandiae)  -
   

Gerd - what a stunningly beautiful plant. Many thanks for showing it

[Gerdk]

Gerd
I have no idea as to the answer to your question on identifying the species.I get my information on where to find plants mostly from Scottish Rock and AGS bulletins and then try and confirm the identities of plants I find with knowledgeable friends.

Tony,
So do I, but the more you read in different books and articles the more you become like a Narcissus confusus .
What does it matter? A name is just a name - nothing more.
Gerd

[Gerdk]

Who is that indigenous man in the last picture?
This is Narcissus bulbocdium. ssp. bulbocodium var. nivalis. I'm still looking for find N x stenanthus!!

Rafa, beautiful pictures, as usual!
I guess the strange person on the ground is one of those crazy forum members suffering
from a bizarre disease called yellow fever. I hope it wasn't you. 

Gerd

[Michael J Campbell]

Narcissus romieuxii

[Maggi Young]

It is certainly a sufferer of the yellow fever, Gerd.... look, the poor soul has fallen to the ground, he is writhing amongst the oak leaves , he stretches his arms in desperation.... yes, see,  he is trying to photgraph a narcissus... a serious case.... possibly no cure.....happily by this stage of the disease he will have completely lost his mind, so, actually, he is NOT SUFFERING as such... he feels only enjoyment and a deep longing......

[Armin]

Hi et all,
thanks for the beauti narcissus show.

I have a question to the experts regarding section pseudonarcissus.

I would like to know what are the distinct differences of N.nobilis vs. N.bicolor var. bicolor vs. N.confusus vs. N. pseudonacissus subsp. pseudonarcissus var. pseudonarcissus??? 
Is it growing location, color of leaves, size, chromosomes no. ect.
For me they look all rather equal - bicolor flowers. Very beautiful and desireable.

[annew]

Maybe they should all be lumped under confusus?

[annew]

By the way, I appreciate the contortions our reporters have to endure to bring us such superb photos

[Gerdk]

Is it growing location, color of leaves, size, chromosomes no. ect.

Yes, it is - add flower colour!

I know, this is a very short answer  .

A wide view  would take the space of nearly a book.
Narcissus taxonomy is a tricky thing and always in a state of flux - I believe if you ask two different experts (I am none of them), I am sure you will get at least two different answers.

Good books concerning this theme are ' Narcissus' by John W. Blanchard and
'Alles über Narzissen ' by Gerhard Bahnert.

Gerd

[Hans J]

Here

Narcissus cyclamineus ( free in my garden )

received from a nice friend before some years ....

[Armin]

Yes, it is - add flower colour!
I know, this is a very short answer  .

A wide view  would take the space of nearly a book.
Narcissus taxonomy is a tricky thing and always in a state of flux - I believe if you ask two different experts (I am none of them), I am sure you will get at least two different answers.

Good books concerning this theme are ' Narcissus' by John W. Blanchard and
'Alles über Narzissen ' by Gerhard Bahnert.
Gerd

Gerd,
thank you for the book references.

Anne,
I tend to agree your proposal - confusus

[Anthony Darby]

Here

Narcissus cyclamineus ( free in my garden )

received from a nice friend before some years ....

Glad to see it is doing well Hans.

[Gerdk]

Here are some daffodils from today

1. Narcissus pseudonarcissus - of wild origin from the 'Eifel'
2. A very small N. cyclamineus from N. Spain
3. N. hedraeanthus white
4. N. hedraeanthus x N. triandrus
5. N. cantabricus from Ronda

Gerd

[annew]

OOOH! I like that white hedreanthus!

[Lvandelft]

A very small N. cyclamineus from N. Spain

That IS a lovely one Gerd!