Cyclamen 2008

[Gerdk]

Tim,
Lovely to see hte real albissimum. 

Tim, very good plant - good size of flowers. Is this form called  ' Lake Effect ' ?
I once had C. coum albissimum ' Golan Heights ' - which was an ugly and weak plant.

Gerd

[Tim Murphy]

Hello Gerd,
               I have a dozen 'Golan Heights' here and not one of them earns their space in the glasshouse. I agree that it is a weak form of coum and I'm sure that it wouldn't survive outside here. It only just survives in the glasshouse when temperatures drop below freezing. Despite all of this, I still sell out of seed from my plants every year.

The albissimum plant in my photo has been given the name 'George Bisson'. The near pure white albissimum in my other photo is closer to the plant known as 'Lake Effect' in flower size (larger than 'George Bisson') and the fact that the petals are fimbriated. Only the very slight pink in the flower separates my plant from 'Lake Effect', which is pure white.

If you take a close look at the 'George Bisson' plant, compare the colour of the flower stalks and the coiling seed pod. Even these parts of the plant are lighter in colour than the 'normal' coum around it.

[Gerdk]

Thank you Tim.
I can give you the confirmation - Golan Heights does not survive outside, but I am not sad about it. Other C. coum do fine in my garden.
I just received some seeds of Lake Effect from a Dutch cyclamen specialist - hoping to raise this improved form (originally from John Lonsdale - I was told).

Gerd

Edit by M : 'Lake Effect' was raised  and named by Ellen Hornig and registered on her behalf by John Lonsdale

[Paul T]

Tim,

I hadn't focused on the fimbriation until you mentioned it.  A nice addition isn't it!?  So is the 'George Bisson' of your own plant and therefore own naming, or is it available elsewhere.  if the latter I'll keep an eye out for seed as I would very much like to grow it.  'Lake Effect' sounds rather interesting too, being pure white with the fimbriation as well, but I think that 'George Bisson' would look "cleaner" with the paler stems etc.  Very beautiful, that is for sure.  Thanks for showing us the pics.

[Tim Murphy]

Paul, 'George Bisson' isn't one of my own selections (I would never apply cultivar names to them); I think it was selected out and named by Elm Tree Nursery who are in Devon, UK. I'm sure that there are a few sources who might carry a few seeds each summer but you would have to be quick.

As the current Seed Distribution Manager of The Cyclamen Society, perhaps I might be able to convince you to join (if you aren't already a member) so that you could apply for seed through the annual seed distribution scheme. If you were to donate some seeds, you would have an even better chance of getting what you wanted

[Paul T]

Tim,

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for it.  Definitely worth tracking down I think as the pure white flowers are great, and better growth habit helps too!!

Re Cyc Soc..... 'd love to join, but will have to see about funds.  A lot of my societies have had to go by the wayside (but I have never been a member of the Cyc Soc, despite wanting to join it) due to long term illness, but hopefully when I am again working I can rectify that.  Not sure whether many of my things would be of that much interest to Cyclamen officionados anyway, as I don't have many of the newer and superior leaf forms that are about the place. 

[Paul T]

Howyd All,

I hope no-one minds me popping a few of my Southern Hemisphere cyclamen pics in this thread?  There's actually quite a few in flower at the moment including graecum, graecum album, cilicicum, cilicicum album, purpurascens, cyprium, colchicum, hederifolium and intaminatum.  A few flower pics are attached....

I am intrigued by both Cyc. colchicum and C. cyprium having rather chunky flowers.  I am unsure whether this is just that I have a form with poorer flowers, or whether there is something I am doing wrong with their culture.  From memory by other tuber of cyprium isn't as chunky a flower, and the second tuber of C. colchicum hasn't yet flowered for me.  The C. graecum is the one pink flowered seedling from the seed I got of the white form that I offered seed of a while ago and the cilicicum album is a white seedling from my a predominantly pink set of seed.

[Tim Murphy]

  Not sure whether many of my things would be of that much interest to Cyclamen officionados anyway, as I don't have many of the newer and superior leaf forms that are about the place. 

Paul, I might have believed you had you not then posted those photos of some of your cyclamen in flower
The Society is grateful for seed of all types/forms of cyclamen. An awful lot of members want (for example) just coum and hederifolium for the garden and they aren't all that interested in aquiring the very best leaf forms; as long as the plants are strong and grow well, that's often all that matters. If you are in a position to join the Society in the future, give me a shout.

I think your cyprium and colchicum flowers are very nice and are probably just showing natural variability. All but one of my C. colchicum are short, stocky flowers; one plant has elongated petals and I don't really like it all that much. The problem is that it's one of my most vigorous and largest colchicum. I hope you keep posting as your season moves on.

[Paul T]

Tim,

Thanks for the confirmation for shapes of the flowers.  I usually only get a few flowers per plant from those, as I only acquired in the last few years and they haven't thrived here as yet.  Rohlfsianum is sporadic here but I usually get at least a flower or two from one of the 5 adults I have.  I have most of the species (Well all I can find) except for trochopteranthum which I lost and have not yet replaced.  I do have some nice leaf forms of hederifolium, but no only one or two named ones.  I do have a couple of named leaf forms of coum and mirabile, but some of those are still fairly young seedlings.  If the basics are of interest then it is probably worthwhile me keeping track of seed for the exchange, whether I get a chance to join or not.  I might PM you about it.

[Tony Willis]

A couple of views of one of my frames with the cyclamen pseudibericum in flower.The warmer weather has brought them on.

[Paul T]

Very Nice!! 

[Iturraran]

WOW, love Cyclamen!!! 

[Renate Brinkers]

H @all,

another C.pseudibericum. I love the colour.

[Michael J Campbell]

Here is a cyclamen persicum that wants to be different.

Cyclamen persicum.

[Michael J Campbell]

Cyclamen repandum hybs with creticum and balericum.