Cyclamen 2008

[David Nicholson]

Didn't make the ferry then Luc?

[Oron Peri]

Today I found a plant in flower labelled C. libanoticum - but it looks like mirabile Will post a photo later.
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Thomas
It is more likely to be C. libanoticum X cyprium, this hybrid flowers in early Autumn while C. libanoticum is in flower in late winter, early spring.

[Thomas Huber]

Thomas
It is more likely to be C. libanoticum X cyprium, this hybrid flowers in early Autumn while
C. libanoticum is in flower in late winter, early spring.

I don't think it's C. libanoticum x cyprium - it has frilled petals and leaves, like C. mirabile has,
while the photo in the Cyclamen bible of x wellensiekii shows smooth petals.
We'll have to wait until I make I photo of it - tomorrow, it's to dark outside now!

[Paul T]

Thomas,

If you don't have Cyclamen libanoticum, how many would you like?  Mine seed like crazy around themselves, in fact I am to the stage I have to start removing some of the tiny ones at the edge (in this case the edge is probably 2 feet away from the original clump of plants) as they are threatening to overrun my Trillium rivale and Eranthis planted nearby.  Very distinctive flower that I love, and rather nice leaf markings.

[Hans A.]

Cyclamen are such beautiful plants and normally easy to propagate and grow - to find them in the wild is very special - to find them in Amsterdam made me sad - even if this plants are collected "legally" in turkey -  most of this old plants are digged to die ...

[johnw]

Cyclamen are such beautiful plants and normally easy to propagate and grow - to find them in the wild is very special - to find them in Amsterdam made me sad - even if this plants are collected "legally" in turkey -  most of this old plants are digged to die ...

Hans - What a sickening sight. Is there no one in government this could reported to? If garden centres are hassled enough to produce proper documentation they might just recondsider ordering. It would also be wise to find out first who supplied them and then hassle them too. Inexcusable in this day and age.

johnw

[Lesley Cox]

As sad as seeing wild turtles or whales killed and sold for meat. I sometimes despair of seeing humans act decently.

[Hans A.]

John - it might be crazy - but wild collected Cyclamen of some species can be sold legally - just have a look on this: http://sea.unep-wcmc.org/isdb/CITES/Taxonomy/tax-species-result.cfm?Genus=Cyclamen&Species=hederifolium&source=plants

[johnw]

Hans  - The quantities are unbelievable. Cannot Societies petition against this madness and explain the non-survivability of these bulbs?  There is a pretty good programme of seed growing for export so why a need for this one wonders.

johnw

[Thomas Huber]

Thomas,

If you don't have Cyclamen libanoticum, how many would you like?  Mine seed like crazy around themselves, in fact I am to the stage I have to start removing some of the tiny ones at the edge (in this case the edge is probably 2 feet away from the original clump of plants) as they are threatening to overrun my Trillium rivale and Eranthis planted nearby.  Very distinctive flower that I love, and rather nice leaf markings.

Paul, I'm not sure if I have it - my seed pots are still sleeping, but before you throw yours in the rubbish, I promise to give'em a good home!

A real pity, Hans - they are indeed so easy to grow from seed, so why robbing them from nature 


Here a photo of my plant, received as Cyclamen libanoticum seeds, in my opinion C. mirabile, but I'm not an expert:

[Tony Willis]

Thomas it certainly looks like a mirable.Mine are still dormant although life is stirring under the top dressing.

[Diane Clement]

I agree with Tony, its mirabile.  The pinky tinge to the leaf and the ragged ends of the petals are good identification clues.

[Paul T]

Thomas,

And a very nice mirabile as well.  Very nice leaf markings, and exhibiting the pink tinging to the silver.  I'd be mighty pleased to have that appear in my seedlings, although not so much if it was the only pot I had of seed of a different species.    Very nice plant.

I'll unearth you a few libanoticum and send them your way sometime soon.  They're quite distinctive, and there is definitely no mixing them up with mirabile. 

[Thomas Huber]

Thanks for the confirmation, Diane and Tony!
The next flowers from this libanoticum seed batch are now out - C. hederifolium 

Paul, I will try to pollinate my mirabile, if it sets seed you will get some next summer!

[Paul T]

Good grief Thomas, that is some seed mixup.  Someone must have thrown all their assorted cyclamen seed in the air and then put them together into packets and labelled them.  Now are the hederfoliums at least nice leaf forms?

No stress re the mirabile seed Thomas.  One year if its sets it would be great, but there is definitely no hurry.  I'm still hoping one of these years to get a good solid silver leaf seedling that shows pink in the emerging foliage.  So far the seedlings I've had from them have all has some green markings.  All still lovely, but not "quite" the solid pink/silver leaves as yet.  Always good to have things to aim for!!