Cyclamen 2008

[Otto Fauser]

Gerd , striking leaf variations on your C. cyprium .-much more handsome than mine ,raised from the Elizabeth Strangman clone 'Snowflake' ,
           Otto.

[Gerdk]

Thank you, Otto.

Here is the last flower of Cyclamen colchicum which meets the first of Cyclamen elegans.

Gerd

[Otto Fauser]

Thank you, Otto.

Here is the last flower of Cyclamen colchicum which meets the first of Cyclamen elegans.

Gerd

Gerd , your Cyc. elegans in flower and foliage looks very much like mine , which I grew from seed received from Michael Kammerlander , is yours from the same source ?
    ciao Otto.

[Gerdk]

Otto,
This is a complicated story! I received the plant from my late friend Bernd Wetzel. He told me (if I remember well) that he got it from Dr. Hans Simon of Marktheidenfeld. It was stated that the origin was a Manfred Koenen collection from Iran.
So, if Michael Kammerlander received it from one of the persons mentioned above it might be the same stock.

Gerd

[Tony Willis]

Gerd how names and memories come back. I think you took us to meet Bernd when Lesley and I visited you in 1986 on our way to the DDDR. It was a couple of weeks after Chernobyl and you gave me some super plants.

I heard later if I am correct that he died in an accident in China.

[Gerdk]

Gerd how names and memories come back. I think you took us to meet Bernd when Lesley and I visited you in 1986 on our way to the DDDR. It was a couple of weeks after Chernobyl and you gave me some super plants.
I heard later if I am correct that he died in an accident in China.

Tony,
Yes, I remember too - fortunately the DDR disappeared - unfortunately we are 22 years older!
Dieter Zschummel was one of the last persons who met Bernd in Lijiang in 1997, just one day before 5 persons died on a mountaim road because the driver missed a curve.
Gerd

[Maggi Young]

At a talk by Rob Potterton to our group last month, he made reference to that tragic accident and those poor men were in our thoughts .....It is not only the plant hunters of earlier times who face danger and death in their expeditions.

[Lesley Cox]

What beautiful cyclamen from everyone, but what a sad end to a plantsman's life.

[David Nicholson]

David's confused again?? Is it Cyclamen cilicum or is it C. cilicicum I seem to read both names in the same publication, or am I missing something?

[art600]

David's confused again?? Is it Cyclamen cilicum or is it C. cilicicum I seem to read both names in the same publication, or am I missing something?

NEITHER  It is cilicium   

[Hans J]

David :
please look here :

http://www.cyclamen.org/cilicium_set.html

[David Nicholson]

Thanks both, obviously I had an 'i' complaint when I typed my post!   But having said that I'm still confused because in 'Cyclamen' by Chris Grey-Wilson 'cilicicum' is mentioned as well in the context of forma cilicicum?

[art600]

David

Having Googled 'cilicicum' I too am confused, since other genus are spelt cilicicum e.g. Colchicum, Muscari.  There is even an American Nursery that has Cyclamen cilicicum.     

[Maggi Young]

I think just a very common typo, David.... happens everywhere..... seems very prevalent spelling on continental websites... especially  in Spanish and Italian    There is Colchicum cilicicum, which just adds mud to the mix!

[David Nicholson]

....... and on some American ones too, see 

http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?12733

You would have thought that the publisher of an important monograph on the species would get it right, wouldn't you?