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Author Topic: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse  (Read 536726 times)

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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #735 on: July 15, 2010, 09:34:55 AM »
Dear friends
what can I say, I am really overwhelmed by your reactions, either here or by mail or PM.
As I said before, I have no problems with criticism, but it was this time more the way Mark was taking opportunities to address issues of nomenclature, that I got the feeling he is pointing his finger right on me in his comments and therefore I used the word ‘aggressive’.

I read his words as if he was giving ME an order to tell the KAVB Committees right away that they are not doing there work properly.
I mentioned several times what kind of shows these are at Lisse and how it works. I am not responsible for wrong names of shown plants or flowers. I picture the flowers and the names always separately and just put them to the plant picture. Often I find out a week or so after showing my pictures, that a wrong name was corrected later by the Nomenclature Committee!
If there are problems about naming or different meanings about nomenclature, everybody is free to send comments to the KAVB directly.
I am sure these posts will land somehow in some Committee and be discussed.

Mark, having been a self-employed nurseryman the most years of my life, I DO HATE taking orders from others, so I would more likely prefer to read a bit more gently words, like : I don’t think this plant has the right name, because …. etc.

I think when mentioning here nursery-man(-women), they are all kind of a special breed. Rather stubborn and going straight forward, often struggling for their existence caused by unexpected circumstances.
In this forum there are a few of them (NO, no names :)) active too and when I read their comments it’s like looking into a mirror. It’s just that I, using English as a 2nd or 3rd language I often cannot express myself like I would do in my own language.

I will make it short.
Lesley’s sentence : As to criticisms, don't let them bother you,  is perhaps a good expression and I will use it here.
Now back to work and later some pictures again!
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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #736 on: July 15, 2010, 02:55:31 PM »
This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?
puzzle

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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #737 on: July 15, 2010, 02:58:53 PM »
and some flowers from this week:

Agapanthus Blue Mystery                     
Agapanthus Savile Blue - Name uncertain       
Allium giganteum                           
Allium Twinkling Stars       
Gladiolus nanus Nymph                           
Gladiolus nanus The Bride                               
Ixia Eos                                             
Gladiolus (small-flowered) 

more to come       
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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #738 on: July 15, 2010, 03:02:19 PM »
This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?
puzzle



 Strelitzia?
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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #739 on: July 15, 2010, 03:06:10 PM »
This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?
puzzle



Allium fistulosum or A. pskemense?
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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #740 on: July 15, 2010, 03:09:34 PM »
This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?

Must be some sort of Allium, but the only one I know the name of with stems like that is A. vavilovii?

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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #741 on: July 15, 2010, 03:13:41 PM »
This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?

Must be some sort of Allium, but the only one I know the name of with stems like that is A. vavilovii?

Arisaema, I think we're on the right track, there are only a few Allium species with the hollow fatter-in-the-middle type of stems, so these are good guesses, but seeing the flowers would make the puzzle easier ;)
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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #742 on: July 15, 2010, 03:21:35 PM »
This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?
puzzle



No idea, but that's nothing unusual I am hopless ::)

Angie :)
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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #743 on: July 15, 2010, 03:26:15 PM »
The stems of Zamioculcas leaves?

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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #744 on: July 15, 2010, 03:30:09 PM »
The stems of Zamioculcas leaves?
Oh, never thought of those....... cunning idea, Michael!
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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #745 on: July 15, 2010, 03:34:07 PM »
The stems of Zamioculcas leaves?
Oh, never thought of those....... cunning idea, Michael!

I never heard of Zamioculcas!  Haven't checked other species, this one has inflated stems, but not "fatter-in-the-middle" type:
http://bp2.blogger.com/_eaKbvlcIK10/SHDVOuNiLlI/AAAAAAAACBA/nVbEV8xi0Jo/s1600-h/zamioculcas+zamiifolia+tubers+%28own%29.jpg
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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #746 on: July 15, 2010, 03:52:19 PM »
Could it be some kind of Galtonia?

Angie :)
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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #747 on: July 15, 2010, 03:56:08 PM »
Must be some sort of Allium, but the only one I know the name of with stems like that is A. vavilovii?

Found a pic of Allium vavilovii, how about them stems!
http://haveylab.hort.wisc.edu/research/allium_vavilovii.jpg

And I know I have a better photo of Allium fistulosum stems and leaves someplace, can't find it, so this one will have to do, it gives some indication of the fatter-in-the-middle leaf and stem type.
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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #748 on: July 15, 2010, 03:58:19 PM »
Could it be some kind of Galtonia?

Angie :)

I think of Galtonia stems as being like fashion models.... straight up and down..... :D ;)
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Re: Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse
« Reply #749 on: July 15, 2010, 04:00:09 PM »
Must be some sort of Allium, but the only one I know the name of with stems like that is A. vavilovii?

Found a pic of Allium vavilovii, how about them stems!
http://haveylab.hort.wisc.edu/research/allium_vavilovii.jpg
WOW!! I didn't know these existed! Fantastic  8) and, dovetailing in nicely with the World Cup Thread and the Moraea vuvuzela, this is obviously the original inspiration for the vuvuzela!!  ;D ;D
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