Remarks from the Weekly KAVB Flower Show - Lisse

[Maggi Young]

This thread is formed from the pages of previous years for Luit van Delft's musings from the weekly flower show at Lisse, in the Netherlands, of the KAVB, which translates in English as   Royal General Bulbgrowers' Association



When clicking this link: http://www.ishs.org/sci/icralist/49.htm  you will come to the ICRA Report Sheet showingthose bulbs for which KAVB is the official registrar.

[Lvandelft]

Thanks Maggi!



Edit by Maggi: Happy to help, Luit and thanks for these lovely Dutch Tulips    

[Lvandelft]

At the first KAVB Show of this year as usual not so many entries. But at the moment all color is welcome
I selected a few of the better tulips:

Tulipa Krasa                           
Tulipa Rosy Delight                                   
Tulipa Spryng                                     
Tulipa Violinde                                       

and there was a nice Narcissus:
Narcissus Nylon Group yellow form 


Second try       

[Paul T]

Interesting naming on that last one.   Definitely a petunioides type, not something I would even vaguely have associated with a "Nylon" group?  Some beautiful Tulips (and the Narcissus as well for that matter).

[Lvandelft]

This week we saw amongst others a nice pot of Hyacinthus Anastasia and a few entries with Narcissus:

Hyacinthus Anastasia                               
Narcissus 
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Atlas Gold cl.           
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Treble Chance cl.             
Narcissus romieuxii Julia Jane     

[Lvandelft]

Some tulips which I selected out of the many entries:
     
Tulipa Coquette Yellow             
Tulipa Dea                 
Tulipa Tom Pouce                                       

and the choice of pot-tulips developes slowly:
Tulipa Ministar 
Tulipa [Ministar] rode mutant                 
Tulipa Salmon Crown

[ChrisB]

Lovely narcissus Luit.  Do you know why they are labelled JC805 by any chance?  Just curious.  I have some in bud at the moment.

[Lesley Cox]

Chris, JCA 805 is just the Archibald collection number which has remained close to the group of bulbs he collected on that occasion, mainly, I suppose, because so many good plants were selected from it, such as 'Julia Jane,' 'Atlas Gold,' 'Treble Chance' and (I think) 'Joy Bishop.' Perhaps others. Mostly collection numbers get abandoned after a time and we go with just the genus and species names but when a collection is outstanding, sometimes the number sticks. Another such, is Clematis orientalis (vernayi now?) L and S 13342 which always is attached to the relevant plant because it is so much superior to other forms of the species.

[Gerry Webster]

This week we saw amongst others a nice pot of Hyacinthus Anastasia and a few entries with Narcissus:

Hyacinthus Anastasia                                
Narcissus  
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Atlas Gold cl.          
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Treble Chance cl.            
Narcissus romieuxii Julia Jane      

I doubt that the last one is really 'Julia'Jane.

[Lvandelft]

Chris, JCA 805 is just the Archibald collection number which has remained close to the group of bulbs he collected on that occasion, mainly, I suppose, because so many good plants were selected from it, such as 'Julia Jane,' 'Atlas Gold,' 'Treble Chance' and (I think) 'Joy Bishop.' Perhaps others. Mostly collection numbers get abandoned after a time and we go with just the genus and species names but when a collection is outstanding, sometimes the number sticks. Another such, is Clematis orientalis (vernayi now?) L and S 13342 which always is attached to the relevant plant because it is so much superior to other forms of the species.

Thanks for your help Lesley. What you write in a few minutes would cost me half an hour 

[Paul T]

Glorious pics as always, Luit.  Thanks.

[David Nicholson]

This week we saw amongst others a nice pot of Hyacinthus Anastasia and a few entries with Narcissus:

Hyacinthus Anastasia                                
Narcissus  
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Atlas Gold cl.          
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Treble Chance cl.            
Narcissus romieuxii Julia Jane      

I doubt that the last one is really 'Julia'Jane.

ex 'Julia Jane' ?

[Gerry Webster]

This week we saw amongst others a nice pot of Hyacinthus Anastasia and a few entries with Narcissus:

Hyacinthus Anastasia                                
Narcissus  
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Atlas Gold cl.          
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Treble Chance cl.            
Narcissus romieuxii Julia Jane      

I doubt that the last one is really 'Julia'Jane.

ex 'Julia Jane' ?

David - Insofar as one can judge from a photo, the plants shown by Luit are very close, if not identical, to those distributed by (& presumably imported by) Miniature Bulbs in the UK. You have these plants & so do I; they are really quite different to 'Julia Jane', a petunioid form. I see that MB have changed their description &  currently refer to their plants as: "N.romieuxii JCA805 'Julia Jane' group   - A quality selection from JCA 805." These plants are fairly typical of the  seedlings that can be obtained from JCA 805 so, other than for sales purposes, I cannot see the point of the reference to 'Julia Jane'.

[ChrisB]

Thanks Lesley,  I have often wondered.  When mine comes into bloom I'll post a picture.  It doesn't have a name, just JCA 805...

[Gerry Webster]

Chris - if you are interested, JCA 805 was collected  in 1962 in Morocco, Middle Atlas Mountains above Ifrane. Jim Archibald describes the population as very variable in both form & colour & this variation is represented in the range of  cultivars which have been selected from seedlings of  JCA 805.