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allium 2015
« on: June 25, 2015, 12:10:38 PM »
Nobody seem to have started the allium thread this year. I wish I had seen early bloomers here. But better late than never. Would I start with a question? This small creature grew in a seedling pot where no alliums had been supposed. I don't have a slightest idea of what it is. Any help to id it? Sorry for the picture quality.

« Last Edit: June 25, 2015, 12:44:29 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2015, 12:13:00 PM »
Sorry again. I don't know why the picture is upside down or how to correct it
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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2015, 12:46:31 PM »
Sometimes the photo just flips, Oleg! Not sure why but I have turned it for you.

I agree it is a shame there  has been no allium thread before now for this year -  I think several members are posting their photos on social media  - a pity because the audience is limited and if any information is added there it is quickly lost.  :'(
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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2015, 02:13:17 PM »
Thank you, Maggi. You are always of help. I'll try to post some more pictures and not sure I won't need your help again
1. Allium bodeanum May 31
2. Allium elburzensis May 31
3. Allium amplectens now
4. Allium altaicum now
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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2015, 12:55:19 PM »
Just finished flowering here is the form of Allium bodeanum illustrated in the Phillips & Rix 'Bulbs' book:

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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2015, 03:19:56 PM »
Thank you, Maggi. You are always of help. I'll try to post some more pictures and not sure I won't need your help again
1. Allium bodeanum May 31
2. Allium elburzensis May 31
3. Allium amplectens now
4. Allium altaicum now
The second plant is allium egorovae and not elburzense
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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2015, 03:20:47 PM »
Just finished flowering here is the form of Allium bodeanum illustrated in the Phillips & Rix 'Bulbs' book:
This is extremely late Darren.  I am cleaning my seedpots already !
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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2015, 03:25:41 PM »
This picture was taken a couple of weeks ago Luc, but this plant still has some green in the leaf and the seed capsules have not yet split, the last flowers have only just faded. It does seem to be later here than others of this section that I grow. The bonus of this is that the good light keeps the stem short  :). It might help that it is in a frame rather than in the greenhouse where it would be much warmer.
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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2015, 06:02:06 PM »
Thank you, Luc. It was received from Norman Stevens as Allium elburzensis, so having some doubts I didn't bother to check. Anyway, I'm happy about it
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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2015, 10:39:14 PM »
I still have alliums in my garden. I broke the paler one in the first photo off when weeding. I'm not sure of the ID. It may be A. narcissiflorum. The last photo is A. karataviense. I bought this pot of flowering bulbs last month because I have not managed to grow it from seeds or bulbs. I started growing alliums a few years ago to bridge the flowering gap between the Spring bulbs and the kniphofia.   
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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2015, 11:18:53 PM »
I admit I'm quite addicted to planting taller alliums because they send up leaves in the herbaceous border which die off as the flowers appear. As they die off the kniphofia start flowering. Woodpeckers love to sip the nectar from the kniphofia. 

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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2015, 11:28:23 PM »
The allium flowers brought in to the house after I accidentally broke the stem have opened up beautifully. I managed to get photos showing both the face and the back of the flowers.

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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2015, 08:40:22 PM »
Allium flavum subsp. tauricum looks like fireworks
and Allium 'Valerie Finnis'
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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2015, 11:10:17 AM »
Thank you, Maggi. You are always of help. I'll try to post some more pictures and not sure I won't need your help again
1. Allium bodeanum May 31
2. Allium elburzensis May 31
3. Allium amplectens now
4. Allium altaicum now
I am wondering if your unknown allium could be a seedling from the A. amplectens you already have. It is hard to see the detail as the first photo shows an allium in decline. 

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Re: allium 2015
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2015, 09:16:50 PM »
Allium flavum subsp. tauricum looks like fireworks
and Allium 'Valerie Finnis'

Wow, I haven't been over to this side of the pond for a long time. Yay Alliums! 

Wim, I can't find much at all, on an Allium named 'Valerie Finnis', of course we all know the famous Muscari cultivar by that name, and apparently there's an Artemisia cultivar by that name too. What can you tell us about that Allium. Looks like one of a number of pale red & white forms of Allium paniculatum.

Haha, was trying to find the "like" button on these pics, guess I'm spending too much time on facebook.
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