Narcissus November 2015

[YT]

Narcissus triandrus x serotinus

[bulborum]

Beauties YT

Roland

[Gerdk]

Nice autumn flowering combination (spring x autumn flowering species)!
Is it a Japanese creation? It seems to me in your country developes an increasing interest
in autumn flowring daffodils - does it?

Gerd

[YT]

Beauties YT
Roland

Thanks, Roland!

Nice autumn flowering combination (spring x autumn flowering species)!
Is it a Japanese creation? It seems to me in your country developes an increasing interest in autumn flowring daffodils - does it?
Gerd

Hello, Gerd. I obtained this hybrid from a Japanese nursery but seems that they are not so interested in developing and increasing autumn hybrids.
Though daffodils are very popular spring bulbs here, only a few people are interested in such enthusiasts' narcissus.

[Gerdk]

Hello, Gerd. I obtained this hybrid from a Japanese nursery but seems that they are not so interested in developing and increasing autumn hybrids.
Though daffodils are very popular spring bulbs here, only a few people are interested in such enthusiasts' narcissus.

Thank you Tatsuo! That`s a pity - because the climate would be suited for the autumn flowering daffs in most parts of
your country - and a special interest for tiny and choice species (Hepatica) seems already existing.

Gerd

[annew]

Very interesting Tatsuo. There seems no sign of the triandrus parent in the flower.

[YT]

Very interesting Tatsuo. There seems no sign of the triandrus parent in the flower.

Hello, Anne. I think its sticking out stigmas from cups and slightly reflexed sepals are inherited from triandrus. Perhaps inclined scapes are too.

[annew]

Maybe the multiple flowers per stem - or does serotinus have that anyway?

[Matt T]

N.serotinus will often have 2 flowers per scape, sometimes inclined upwards. In this hybrid I see some with 3 buds, and the corona is larger and more flared than you'd get in serotinus, which must be from the triandrus parent? And perhaps the exerted stigma as Tatsuo suggests?

[annew]

I see. My ignorance of the autumn daffodils is boundless!

[Gerdk]

According the nice weather conditions here a new set of flowers opened.

These are

Narcissus x alleniae in nearly white and some with a yellowish tint plus the parents of the hybrid
N. viridiflorus and N. miniatus (obsoletus)

Gerd

[Yann]

Narcissus cantabricus ssp cantabricus and romieuxii var zaianicus.

[WimB]

Found by a slug before I found it in flower 
Very nice none the less and has survived the past 3 years outdoors without any protection:

Narcissus romieuxii 'Craigton Clanger' (Not a clanger at all!)

[Mark Griffiths]

can anyone help with an id on this one, it's flowering now with more to come. I got it from the AGS as Narcissus romieuxii mesatlanticus - I was expecting white or cream rather than pale yellow. But it's different from my other romieuxii so I'm not too worried.

[Rafa]

Beautiful hybrid Tatsuo, and also great results all of you with this autumn narcissi.
Tatsuo, I am sure your hybrid has N. obsoletus as mother, because N. serotinus is strictly uniflower. The father is N. triandrus (this is why it hasn't bloom in spring) which has several flowers, but the mother is the one that should have several flowers to make possible its hybrids also be multiflower. So autumn blooming and multiflowered species = N. obosletus, not N. serotinus.

That I observed in the nature, is that a mother uniflower, creates uniflower hybrids. So maybe this is why the mother of your hybrid is N. obsoletus instead N. serotinus. In adition, also the perianth tube hasn't any character of mother N. serotinus which is very remarkable