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Chris Johnson

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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2016, 02:07:48 PM »
Ok, found yours Mark. They do seem to have some variability, but I get the overall feeling. I will rename mine as straight Tecophilaea cyanocrocus. :)
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2016, 10:42:29 PM »
I got this as Tecophilea cyanocrocus 'Leichtlinii'.  Maybe a bit more white in the throat than Chris's one but nearer the species than the variety.  I also bought 3 corms of the species but they have all split and do not look likely to flower this year.
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2016, 08:44:15 AM »
I got this as Tecophilea cyanocrocus 'Leichtlinii'.  Maybe a bit more white in the throat than Chris's one but nearer the species than the variety.  I also bought 3 corms of the species but they have all split and do not look likely to flower this year.

Hi Roma

Now mine have aged a bit they look rather similar to yours. I think Mark is right - they are the species.

I will send you a PM regarding the nursery supplier. They are well respected and I don't want to draw adverse publicity here.
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2016, 06:50:40 AM »
Tristagma leichtlinii, Fern and Watson 5485
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2016, 12:17:19 PM »
Tristagma leichtlinii, Fern and Watson 5485

That is an attractive plants, Tatsuo. How long do they take to flower from seed? - I have some 2 year old seedlings.

Edit:
I note Ian featured this plant in Bulb Log 16 - if you're looking in Ian, can you tell me how long yours took from seed. Your conditions will be similar to mine.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2016, 12:40:04 PM by Chris Johnson »
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2016, 01:47:08 PM »
Hello Chris,
I got this cute plants as bulbs from a kind formist several years ago.
They started to flower from next season.
Sorry for I can't help you.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2016, 01:56:13 PM by YT »
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2016, 03:17:21 PM »
First few flowers in year three  most flowered in year four.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2016, 04:04:12 PM by Ian Y »
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2016, 04:35:58 PM »
Tecophilaea cyanocrocus ? 'Leichtlinii'
I've no experience of growing these so do not know if this is true 'Leichtlinii'  the straight species or an intermediate.
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2016, 04:45:55 PM »
Roma, I think it's the "straight species" - have a look on page one.

However when I saw the stuff about it's rediscovery in the wild it looks as if the typical form is more like 'Leichtlinii'

http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?pid=S0717-66432002000200004&script=sci_arttext&tlng=es
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2016, 04:53:13 PM »
Thanks, Mark.  Interesting article.  Pity the photographs aren't clearer.
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2016, 05:31:20 PM »
Yes, it's pretty awful. Not been able to find anyhting better.
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2016, 06:37:21 PM »
That's an interesting link Mark.

I have tried to find a precise definition that defines the difference between cyanocrocus and leichtlinii but as they are only varieties I do not think one exists.

We have a full range from some with almost no white in the throat to others that are almost all white, I will feature them again in a Bulb log when they open.

Roma I think the last one you show would fit into var leichtlinii.
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2016, 06:47:26 PM »
Reminds me of Ian's old article o the main website : http://www.srgc.org.uk/feature/ianyoung/tecoph.html   and there are numerous  pix of Tecos in the Bulb Log over the years - see the Index by Len Rhind 
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2016, 06:49:29 PM »
First few flowers in year three  most flowered in year four.

Thanks Tatsuo and Ian.

Not too long to wait then. :)
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Re: South American Bulbs 2016
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2016, 07:02:20 PM »
hmm..maybe I should see if I can find the true blue type plant. Seeing as both of my original bulbs came from different suppliers that might be a challenge. Any one care to supply the name of suppliers who have the completely blue form?

I see from Ian's article you grow them from seed. I've never suceeded although I often get a fair amount of seed. Wonder what I'm doing wrong?
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