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Catwheazle

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Iris tuberosa ???
« on: February 20, 2016, 05:29:19 PM »
Bought as Iris tuberosus. But i have doubts :-(
What could it be ? ...i think reticulata. But which clone?
Help please.
Bernd
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Re: Iris tuberosa
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2016, 02:39:10 AM »
Quote from: Catwheazle on February 20, 2016, 05:29:19 PM
Bought as Iris tuberosus. But i have doubts :-(
What could it be ? ...i think reticulata. But which clone?
Help please.
Bernd
Hi Bernd,
It looks like one of the McMurtrie hybrids. In which case that's a bargain!
But you need someone like Peter T to give his opinion,
cheers
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Re: Iris tuberosa
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2016, 08:30:51 AM »
a closer view.....
after searching i think: Iris reticulata "Pauline" (reticulata x barkeriana)

what do you think ?

Bernd
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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2016, 09:42:23 AM »
Definitely not I. tuberosa and I don't think it's a McMurtrie seedling. But I don't think it is 'Pauline' either, more like a bakeriana hybrid of which I know only 'Springtime' and 'Clairette.' Or perhaps it's a form of bakeriana itself. Have you counted the number of sides to the leaves Bernd? Bakeriana has 8 sides, making the cross section almost round, reticulata has four and the hybrids between the two have a varying number from 5-8 usually.
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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2016, 10:00:22 AM »
5 or 6?????? :-(   ..... but i´m not shure what means "side" :-(
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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2016, 11:17:59 AM »
It does look rather like the 'Spot On' shown here by Alan.
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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2016, 04:08:07 PM »
Quote from: Catwheazle on February 21, 2016, 10:00:22 AM
5 or 6?????? :-(   ..... but i´m not shure what means "side" :-(

 For this, side   =edge  ..... like pentagon, hexagon, and so on.
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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2016, 04:10:10 PM »
I suspect this is  'Spot On' - I'm asking Alan  McMurtie himself to comment.
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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2016, 04:12:19 PM »
Hi,
I had bought from a dealer two different varieties. The illustrated here, blue, sees the "Spot On" really very similar to the second (- aka danfordiae - photo) is reminiscent of the "Sunshine". Whether this is coincidence?
I have now emailed the dealer if he can tell me the correct name, or want to give me the farm.

@Lesley Cox: seems to be 8 sides
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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2016, 04:18:13 PM »
The  danfordiae looks correct.

Alan's pix of  'Spot On' 


and then 'Sunshine'  for comparison....



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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2016, 04:24:42 PM »
Thx Maggi :-)
danfordiae is OK .... "Spot On": my plant has no yellow at Lip
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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2016, 11:11:31 PM »
It is unlikely that anyone else has a hybrid like my Spot On (Purple Gem x Iris bakeriana ANMc2275)
It is easily within the range of expression of Spot On (87-DQ-1).  Here are some photos I have access to on my laptop that don't show a light yellow ridge [in England at the moment]





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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2016, 06:26:34 AM »
wonderful plants  :o
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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2016, 02:17:00 PM »
about a week ago I had the dealer (Dehner/germany) written, but received no reply. This morning I again complained, mentioning that I posted the name issue in some forums and there will reluctantly write: "No response from the dealer." Within hours, I had a very friendly answer with the name of the plant: 'Purple Gem' x Bakeriana
@ Alan McMurtrie: send you a PM
Greetings from the now again snowy Allgäu
Bernd
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Re: Iris tuberosa ???
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2016, 08:18:02 PM »
I'm sorry Bernd, I should have been more clear about the sides. Fortunately, Maggi has given you a good illustration of the leaves in CROSS-SECTION. Viewed in this way, the leaves of reticulata can be seen to have 4 sides, those of bakeriana seen to have 8 making them seem close to round and hybrids between the two have a varying number of sides.
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