Galanthus: January 2008

[mark smyth]

OK. And what martin means about looking at the leaf bases is elwesii will have one leaf wrapped around the other. Applanate Galanthus have both leaf bases parallel

[Tony Willis]

OK. And what martin means about looking at the leaf bases is elwesii will have one leaf wrapped around the other. Applanate Galanthus have both leaf bases parallel

I think I know that.

Photographs are pretty meaningless sometimes for identification and just give a general idea

I have examined them in the light of day and they are all hooded and clearly elwesii. I took them to Ray to whom I had already given some and he agreed.

[Maggi Young]

Mark:"OK. And what martin means about looking at the leaf bases is elwesii will have one leaf wrapped around the other. Applanate Galanthus have both leaf bases parallel"


 Tony W. :I think I know that.

Good for you, Tony, but lots of others, don't know it and are keen to learn - we try to make sure that everyone can benefit from the Forum 

[Brian Ellis]

Apropros of ebay.  I am continually amused and amazed by the general public.  Lady Elphinstone is for sale from three suppliers, two will sell you it on the spot and the other is up for bids.  Postage on all three is £2.50.

The seller at £3 has sold 2 of the three available 

The seller at £3.50 has sold 3 of the 4 available

The one up for bids has reached £3.99   

I know I should get a life but this really tickles me!

[biodiversite]

Here is the clone sold as "caucasus" by Paul Christian and said to be a dutch clone. It seems that it could be Galanthus elwesii ssp. monostictus : is it true ? How do you differenciate G. elwesii ssp. monostictus from the type ?

[Martin Baxendale]

Here is the clone sold as "caucasus" by Paul Christian and said to be a dutch clone. It seems that it could be Galanthus elwesii ssp. monostictus : is it true ? How do you differenciate G. elwesii ssp. monostictus from the type ?

That's 'normal' Galanthus elwesii (which should have either two marks at top and bottom of the inner petals, which may or may not be joined by a pinched-in 'waist', or a single mark which stretches all the way from top to bottom of the inner petals - still usually with a slight 'waist' in the middle).

Gal. elwesii monostictus should have one single mark at the bottom of the inner petal (the bottom of the petal as the flower hangs down) and no mark at all further up towards the other end of the inner petals.

Whether they should be separated simply on the basis of a difference in the green mark, when they're otherwise quite similar, is debatable. However, flow-cytometry analysis has shown monostictus to have a different DNA mass to normal elwesii, which strengthens the case for them being kept separate as species and sub-species.

[biodiversite]

Thank you for this precise answer Martin 

[Anthony Darby]

There are some very nice snowdrops on Ebay, like 'Modern Art' and 'Mr Blobby' but too rich for me. They all seem to be coming from a chap in Cambridge?

[Brian Ellis]

Yes Anthony, they are all over the top pricewise.  Some do come from near Inverness!  I watch it out of amusement.  How anyone could bid £3.99 when they could buy it instantly for £3 is beyond me.

[loes]

well...it`s a lady allright( Beatrix Stanley)

now to be honest..who`s looking at ebay and bidding occasionaly?


I am!(nothing more than 7,50 so I don`t win!)

[Brian Ellis]

Well yes Loes, but these are typical of my purchases!

How sad is that

[Maggi Young]

The power of suggestion is evidently alive and well... guess who has been browsing on Ebay?

[Brian Ellis]

Not you as well Maggie, beware the slippery slope

[Maggi Young]

Not to worry, Brian, I've only put about ten items on to "watch"!

[Gerard Oud]

About ebay, i am also watching some items, but i never see someone offering Elwesii Big boy.
I know its on Judys list but she does Uk orders only,can somebody help me please!