Podophyllum 2016

[johnralphcarpenter]

Great colour on that one Ralph.  Do show us how it progresses.

john

Here it is now, somewhat eaten and less attractive! Any idea as to species?

[johnralphcarpenter]

Podophyllum peltatum emerging.

[Gabriela]

Went looking for P. peltatum that may keep a darker colour later, after the leaves expand. A bit early to say but found what looks to be an interesting 'chimera' specimen. It is the beginning of Trillium flowering in Ontario.

[ashley]

Lovely to see these peltatum in the wild Gabriela, and T. grandiflorum too
Are those taller plants with pleated leaves Diosporum or something else?
Such a beautiful time of year.

[johnw]

Lovely to see these peltatum in the wild Gabriela

And one that's best left in the wild Ashley as it is sheer hell in a garden, impossible to eradicate.  Worse than that it harbours mayapple rust which will obliterate the Asian species. 

Here it is in a nearby county along with 3 other pests that are over-taking this old garden, violets, Berberis vulgaris and norway maple..

john - +11c & overcast

[ashley]

Ah.  I was just about to release a batch of plants from pots after they had finished flowering
Maybe in an area where spread can be curtailed, and well away from other spp.?

[Gabriela]

Lovely to see these peltatum in the wild Gabriela, and T. grandiflorum too
Are those taller plants with pleated leaves Diosporum or something else?
Such a beautiful time of year.

The graceful plant is Maianthemum racemosum Ashley. I took the pictures in a particular wooded area with a rich species association, unfortunately not often seen.
If it could only be May forever...

[Gabriela]

And one that's best left in the wild Ashley as it is sheer hell in a garden, impossible to eradicate.  Worse than that it harbours mayapple rust which will obliterate the Asian species. 
Here it is in a nearby county along with 3 other pests that are over-taking this old garden, violets, Berberis vulgaris and norway maple..
john - +11c & overcast

John – with all due respect, to put P. peltatum on the same ‘weed list’ with the Norway maple it is absolutely ridiculous and I’ll say no more for now…One picture from an old garden doesn’t say all about a species.

Planted on a dry- side location the mayapple is manageable and since it will expand mostly vegetatively (lucky if you’ll get fruits) it can be easily allocated its own space (combined with other woodland species works fine).

The rust I can’t comment much, that’s a different problem anyway. I never found plants with it in this part of Ontario but it would surely spread to the Asian mayapples.

[greenspan]

Here it is now, somewhat eaten and less attractive! Any idea as to species?

Podophyllum hexandrum

[johnw]

Maybe in an area where spread can be curtailed, and well away from other spp.?

Ashley

Is it relly worth the risk? These rusts are impossible to eradicate and at least here come they will if there are any peltatums about.

john

[johnw]

Despite our very cold springs P. delavayi has a tendency to emerge too early, with little frost tolerance it can get clobbered by the late frosts that seem to be a routine event away from the immediate Atlantic coastline.  So this delavayi D16 looks very promising as it is just emerging this week - a month later than others, given the stronger sun the foliage is particularly well-coloured. One of the great things sbout growing from seed is that sometimes nature can give you just what you need.

john

[johnralphcarpenter]

Podophyllum hexandrum

Thanks. Here's a leaf - does it look right for P. hexandrum?

[johnw]

Rest at ease, not P. peltatum but looks right for P. hexandrum (emodi) Ralph.  Here are ours and yours may well change shape as it matures.

john

[Regelian]

Well, I'm getting the fever!  I ordered 2 hexandrums, Spotty Dotty and, maybe a mistake, peltatum (all I could find).  SD is beautiful, of course.  Does anyone know if this hybrid is fertile and what the parents were?  As it is producing flowers, I may know soon enough.  Are podo-sinopodos self-fertile, or on the fussy side?  Ralph, John, anyone?

cheers,
j.

[johnw]

Jamie  - Spotty Dotty does not produce seed here but its pollen may be ok.  Avent says it's a delavayi hybrid and a few other brave souls mention difforme as the other parent but I think that's sheer conjecture.  Robin could surely tell us more.

The other species require pollination from another clone or species to set seed, the pollen can be reluctant to release from the anthers but it can be teased out with a toothpick or scalpel.  Can't say anything about peltatum but there is a hybrid of it with hexandrum I think, don't know if it too is a carrier of rust.

There seems to be an obscene number of flowers coming this year so I reckon seed set will be excellent.

johnw