Erythronium 2008

[johanneshoeller]

E. Pagoda

[Ed Alverson]

Nice flowers on "Pagoda". Mine aren't looking so good this year - the outer tepals are much shorter than the inner and more recurved.  I wonder if it has been the weather, with many cool damp days (including some hard frosts) with a 2 day spell of hot weather in between.  Hopefully it is not some kind of new disease.

I did mention earlier that I would post a photo of my "Pagoda" patch to show the amount of vegetative increase you can get after a few years.  The photo was actually taken last weekend.  This patch started with 4 bulbs that I purchased about 7 or 8 years ago.  The increase has occurred despite giving some bulbs away as well.  I divided the clumps last fall and they completely filled this bed with at least 100 bulbs.

The other thing to notice is the variation in the mottling of the leaves.  Given that this is a single genetic clone, the fact that leaf mottling varies suggest that the intensity of mottling is a response, at least in part, to environmental factors.

Ed

[Ed Alverson]

We woke up this morning to a light covering of slushy snow.  Needless to say, snow here in usually mild western Oregon on April 20th is very unusual.  As a result, my Erythronium hendersonii patches have turned to mush.  Some of my plants were flowering on March 18th, so while the end of the season is near, they have given me over a month of bloom this year.  I'm sure this is due in part to the cool weather, but I seem to recall it has been in bloom for a long time in previous years as well.

Ed

[Luc Gilgemyn]

I had exactly the same problem as you with my clump of E. Pagoda Ed, I also blame the weather - cold with lots of night frost when the buds were developping. 

[Ian Y]

Mark
1,2 and 3 look like E. white beauty types - it does seed around and many seedlings look alike.
The last one is a bit difficult but from what I can see in the picture my first choice would also be E.californicum or perhaps a E.multiscapoideum I would want to be there to be sure.

Ed
Such a pity the weather has hit your wonderful patch of E. hendersonii - it is so beautiful. We are having cold wet and windy inter mixed with bright windy weather and it is damaging all the erthronium flowers - the do not like windy conditions. The good news is that the wind is to move round and will come from the South which is much better for us as it will be warmer and we have more shelter. The cold north easter is the worst and that is what we have had for weeks now.
The markings on all Erythronium leaves will vary from year to year and clones can exhibit different markings. It is down to environmental factors such as temperature, and feeding with well fed mature bulbs producing the most advanced markings and poorly fed imature bulbs can have almost plain green leaves.

[Rob]

My E. pagoda looks OK even though I had a late frost when the buds were forming.

Also a small clump of E. joanna. I just need a sunny day for the buds to open.

[Rob]

Just a quick update showing E. joanna in the sun today

[Ed Alverson]

Nice photos.  Good things come to he who waits!

Ian says (in Bulb Log #20 in 2006) that he thinks E. "Joanna" is a hybrid involving the yellow E. tuolumnense and the pink E. revolutum.  See http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2006/170506/log.html

That makes sense to me, as you can see a slight pinkish tinge to the outer side of the tepals (and on the buds).  In addition, the anther filaments appear to be slightly flattened, which suggests the influence of either E. revolutum and E. oregonum, that is, assuming the other parent is a western NA species.

Ed

[johnw]

Here's a pic of my clump of Erythronium 'Pagoda'

Good grief David, do you raise sheep as well!

johnw

David - I was referring to the lustiness of your Pagoda and possible copious supply of manures!

johnw

[ChrisB]

This was E. 'Johanna' in Ron McBeath's garden yesterday.  Looks slightly different to yours, but perhaps its just not as far out as your is yet.  Anyhow, here it is:

[Kenneth K]

Erythronium revolutum 'White Beauty'.

[Ian Y]

Erythronium time is here now but we are a week or so away from the peak flowering it will depend on the weather.
Today is gray and wet so not so good yesterday was sunny so I got a lot of pictures - no guesses what will feature in next weeks bulb log

[Paul T]

Oh wow!!!    The purists would hate me for this.... but... imagine all the wonderful hybrids you could end up with from seed from plants that close together.  I SO want some seed from that lot!! 

[Kenneth K]

I say double wow!!! I have a perfect place in the garden to build something like the second picture. Lots of work to be done first and then planting...
An old man should perhaps not have so big dreams.

[Luc Gilgemyn]

Stunning view Ian !  Gorgeous !
And to Kenneth.... gardeners should NEVER feel old...