Erythronium 2008

[Susan Band]

Paul,
Could it be a white form of japonicum? Does such thing exsist? The petals look too sturdy for dens-canis

[Paul T]

Susan,

It did remind me of the pics of japonicum I have seen here (Gote's wonderful pics are branded in my memory for life!!  ).  It was a first flowering here, so the flower shape I do not assume is going to remain that form.  Sometimes first flowerings in new conditions of anything find can be a bit stunted, which to be honest is how this flower appeared to me a little.

[Ian Y]

Paul,
Could it be a white form of japonicum? Does such thing exsist? The petals look too sturdy for dens-canis

A good point Susan, we must always keep an open mind and I am sure that there must be white forms of japonicum out there.

However the anthers of E. japonicum are always held at two levels three short and three long. They all look to be roughly equal in Paul's plant.

[gote]

Paul
This is what I got as dens canis 'Niveum' some 12 years ago from Gothenburg botanical garden. This means that it probably originated from Ruksans.
It starts sometimes as a roll back but changes to a fold back. Yellow throath but bluish anthers. My Japonicums only roll - and they have 3 short 3 long anthers.
My Sibiricums have wide, nearly rhomboidal filaments (3rd pic).
What 'Snow Flake' is I do not know but I think that your plant is a dens canis
Göte.

[ruweiss]

Susan, we normally have no pheasants in our region,but nasty blackbirds,crows,magpies,
wild pigeons and squirrels;but like I wrote before: Nature is nature and sometimes I think,
that I am only a tolerated guest in my garden by the residing wildlife there.

[jomowi]

Ruweis

I suggest slugs, they are quite good at creating the type of damage you show in your picture.  Look at the broken end just below the flower, the break looks chewed.  Try slug pellets next year.

Brian Wilson  Aberdeen

[Paul T]

Thanks Göte.  Looks like a rather lovely plant.  Very elegant petals to it.  Definitely not something I have seen here in Aus as yet.

[Gerry Webster]

Paul -
Your 'Snowflake' may well be correct. Have a look at Dixexport - (www.dixexport.com/webshop/e/erythronium/19/19699/671?&pager_1ID=1) - their picture of "Snowflake' shows a similar intensity of colour to yours. 

[David Nicholson]

Here's a pic of my clump of Erythronium 'Pagoda' that I have had for about five years. Should I be thinking about splitting it?

Also a pic of Erythronium californicum 'White Beauty', purchased a few weeks ago, but the flowers refused to look at the camera.

[Ed Alverson]

David,

I split my clumps of "Pagoda" last fall, and the patch looks very impressive now.  I'll post a photo in a few days (the flowers are not yet open).  It is amazing how well they increase, my patch which started with 4 bulbs about 8 years ago now has hundreds of bulbs, and that is despite having given some of the bulbs away.

Ed

[johnw]

Here's a pic of my clump of Erythronium 'Pagoda'

Good grief David, do you raise sheep as well!

johnw

[David Nicholson]

Here's a pic of my clump of Erythronium 'Pagoda'

Good grief David, do you raise sheep as well!

johnw

John, not sure if that is a reference to my eclectic range of plants or that you think I may be a Welshman (not sure if word of the Welshmen's alleged carnal affinity to sheep has crossed the Atlantic!)

My problem is that although I have gardened to some degree ever since I was married it is only since (a) I retired and bought a greenhouse; (b) began to grow Primulas and Auriculas; (c) joined the SRGC and began to learn about other plants and especially bulbous ones (that Ian Young has a lot to answer for!) that the range of stuff I want to have a go at has multiplied tremendously. Being 65 now I want to try everything possible whilst I have the energy and the will to continue to learn. The other way of looking at it is if I try lots of species the Law of Averages says I might, one of these days, get something right!

[Diane Whitehead]

Here is my not-Snowflake, rather scruffy, but a single bulb was shoved
in a pot last fall and so it's doing well to flower at all.

Leaves with only faint silvery marks.  Skinny filaments, white anthers,
no scent.

[Gerry Webster]

Diane -
A form of E. californicum? I have one with similar, rather unexciting,  leaves & flowers which are nothing to write home about.

[alpines]

Don't know if all you folks saw these Erythroniums on the General forum so I'll just post  a couple here. I know Ian Y,Ed and Paul have seen them on the other thread but didn't want you to miss out.

Erythronium americanum
Erythronium albidum...both growing in Kentucky 6th April 2008

Alan