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mark smyth

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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2009, 05:32:00 PM »
Can someone suggest Corydalis to buy from Janis that will suit my raised beds that are in full sun?
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2009, 05:59:54 PM »
Oron,

I thought C. rutifolia is a few flowered species endemic to Cyprus. I wonder if your plant is the same...
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2009, 06:02:30 PM »
Any of the Corydalis solida types will be fine in a raised bed in full sun. The 'eastern woodlanders' are more difficult, needing cool, moist conditions, and the 'bulb belt' types really need alpine house conditions and can be tricky.

C. solida 'Cantata' is a real beauty and so is C. solida 'Transsylvanica Sixtus', my two all-time favourites, along with the classic 'George Baker' of course.
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2009, 07:09:49 PM »
Oron,
I thought C. rutifolia is a few flowered species endemic to Cyprus. I wonder if your plant is the same...

Herbert, To my knowledge C. rutifolia has a wide distribution with a few subspecies:
 C. uniflora from Crete  [ C. rutifolia ssp uniflora]
C. rutifolia ssp. erdelii from Mt. Hermon [Israel, Lebanon, Syria] and parts of Turkey.
C. rutifolia ssp. kurdica from Turkey.

If i'm not wrong, I think that C. rutifolia in Cyprus is the same ssp as in Crete : subsp. uniflora.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2009, 07:30:15 PM by Oron Peri »
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2009, 09:13:49 PM »
I found in this interesting page from the Old Forum, some photos from Franz of his types of Corydalis rutifolia...... from his post of: Friday, April 01, 2005 - 9:48 pm

http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/283/9582.html       8)
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2009, 05:33:24 AM »
Oron,

I used the book on bulbous Corydalis from M. Liden as a reference: In this work all plant names you mentioned are regarded as separate species!

I do not have any  deep knowledge about this group, so there is no further personal judgement about this case.
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2009, 05:18:52 PM »
Herbert,

I am not an expert on this genus, so I can not give the names up to date.
Maybe some one on the forum can check for the valid names...
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2009, 04:14:29 PM »
three corydalis in flower today

 corydalis marshalliana caucusus 27feb09
 corydalis parnassica greece mt olympus 27feb09
 corydalis solida turkey goktepe 27feb09
« Last Edit: February 27, 2009, 04:41:19 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #53 on: February 27, 2009, 05:12:19 PM »
Tony,
I'm almost sure the first one is not Corydalis marschalliana
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/4834.html
« Last Edit: February 27, 2009, 05:25:48 PM by Yuri Pirogov »
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #54 on: February 27, 2009, 05:20:03 PM »
Yuri

you may be right.It was collected in the Caucusus over twenty years ago and given me as ssp marshalliana.At least I got the genus correct!
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Re: bulbous Corydalis - oppositifolia
« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2009, 01:21:29 PM »
Maggi,
I second the thought about pinning a name to bulbous corydalis, attached is a a picture of a plant I purchased as Corydalis oppositifolia from an AGS meet in Leeds, I have the Liden and Zetterlund monograph on the genus but am still uncertain  ???

Now identified as erdelii, see later post!
« Last Edit: March 04, 2009, 02:06:48 PM by Hristo »
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #56 on: February 28, 2009, 03:30:41 PM »
Thank you, Susan
I'm noticed too that the top of stem and bracts of C. cava are usually purple even if flowers are white whereas the top of stem and bracts of C. marschalliana stay usually green even if flowers are purple coloured. The tuber of C. marschalliana could be 3 cm in diameter and even larger but never concave.
So I do not see any feature of C. marschalliana (except tuber probably :) ) in the Gerd's specimen from Croatia.
I enclose several colour forms of Corydalis marschalliana from North Caucasus.
Dear Yuri - On all your pictures is only C. cava. Marshalliana allways is yellow, only in f. lilacinus from Caucas top flowers can be lilac shaded, but bottom in any case are beautifully light yellow.
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #57 on: February 28, 2009, 05:08:26 PM »
Hi Janis,
what is your opinion about this Corydalis from Lago-Naki plateau? Is it C. caucasica or another species?
« Last Edit: February 28, 2009, 05:12:38 PM by Yuri Pirogov »
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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #58 on: February 28, 2009, 10:05:27 PM »
Another surprise... C. rutifolia, growing in stony places on Mt. Hermon usually above 1400m
In  Flora Palaestina it was described as C. erdelii.

thanks everyone for the pics of this charming genus... oron, i'm curious about this one --is this a very dry spot as it looks? are your rains in winter? and if so, when does it grow?

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Re: bulbous Corydalis
« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2009, 09:56:16 AM »
As the snows recede the corydalis emerge in the bulb frame, see Corydalis schanginii ssp schanginii as it emerges fresh into the chill February air!  ;) :D
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