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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2016, 08:59:04 PM »
I looked fast over the key and A. concinnum is supposed to have two leaves/stem so is out. But to properly go over the key, you would need to dissect the flower; not worth doing it.
Why is it cannot be an A. ciliatum?

The name is not that important - I don' want to dissect the flower ;)

According to Pacific bulb Society's site ciliatum has cilia, mine has not (or I haven't seen any).



http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/ArisaemaSpeciesOne

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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2016, 09:06:30 PM »
An email from Jens Birck in May and somehow I didn't realize there was an attachment until yesterday.  It included a picture of his "little" clump of Narcissus cyclamineus. Where does he grow this lusty "little" clump you may well ask, in his peat bed, where else?  I have never seen a stand quite like this one.  Mouth fully agape.  :o :o :o

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I am satisfied when I get 3 flowers at once ;D
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #77 on: June 11, 2016, 09:49:35 PM »
Trond,

it could be Arisaema concinnum, which has 7-11 leaflets when mature (less for seedings) or a related species.  Many have not been described.  It looks to be a member of section Sinarisaema.  The spath barely reveals the spadix, which should be slightly bent foreward at the tip for A. concinnum and the bulb is stoloniferous.  Also, A. ciliatum var liubanense lacks the hairs on the spath mouth margins.  The spadix is well exert and typically touches the spath hood.

Hope it helps.  Arisaema is not easy to identify precisely.
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #78 on: June 11, 2016, 09:58:10 PM »
An email from Jens Birck in May and somehow I didn't realize there was an attachment until yesterday.  It included a picture of his "little" clump of Narcissus cyclamineus. Where does he grow this lusty "little" clump you may well ask, in his peat bed, where else?  I have never seen a stand quite like this one.  Mouth fully agape.  :o :o :o

johnw

If you are ever in this part of the world (North Wales) you should visit Bodnant Garden John. They have much bigger clumps!

https://bodnantgarden.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/narcissus-cyclamineus.jpg

Aberconwy Nursery also have a fine stand, though it's not on display to the public.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2016, 10:01:38 PM by Tristan_He »

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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #79 on: June 12, 2016, 12:36:43 AM »
Ah yes Tristan but does the Bodnant stand have as many flower stems per square centimetre? I've never seen it before with such a "host." Even Wordsworth would be impressed. I saw a cartoon once of an American couple visiting the Lake District in England and on viewing a small clump of daffodils at the base of a tree, was saying "Call that a host?" ;D
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #80 on: June 12, 2016, 02:19:23 AM »
As usual Lesley hits the nail on the head.  I'ver seen modest drifts of cyclamineus in the Pacific Northwest and large ones in the UK (was there not a period in the 70's or 80's when many vanished?) but the number of flower heads in such a small stand at Jens' is absolutely remarkable; up to his usual wizardry.

john - +12c, cloudy & a long bout of rain coming.
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #81 on: June 12, 2016, 02:50:10 AM »
The name is not that important - I don' want to dissect the flower ;)


Of course not!!! I won't repeat what Regelian just said about A. ciliatum var. liubaense. When mine will flower I will post detail pictures.
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #82 on: June 12, 2016, 08:11:06 AM »
Trond,

it could be Arisaema concinnum, which has 7-11 leaflets when mature (less for seedings) or a related species.  Many have not been described.  It looks to be a member of section Sinarisaema.  The spath barely reveals the spadix, which should be slightly bent foreward at the tip for A. concinnum and the bulb is stoloniferous.  Also, A. ciliatum var liubanense lacks the hairs on the spath mouth margins.  The spadix is well exert and typically touches the spath hood.

Hope it helps.  Arisaema is not easy to identify precisely.

Thanks Jamie

It looks very similar to some pictures of concinnum on the net. And moreover it seems to be stoloniferous!


Of course not!!! I won't repeat what Regelian just said about A. ciliatum var. liubaense. When mine will flower I will post detail pictures.


The spadix of my plant is almost hidden.

I can't remember whether my plant was from seed or bought as a corm. I think it is from seed though.
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #83 on: June 12, 2016, 01:57:11 PM »
The first Dierama of the season.  From Rachel Saunder's team (Silver Hill in SA) a hybrid.

I just love these plants.

And a waterlily, Gonnere.
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #84 on: June 12, 2016, 01:59:40 PM »
Summer without opium poppy is unheard of in my garden.  Fortunately, they are never thugs.
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #85 on: June 12, 2016, 02:22:12 PM »
Very nice, Jamie. Here Buddleja alternifolia is a splendid floriferous arching shrub at this time of year.
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #86 on: June 12, 2016, 04:26:25 PM »
This Rhodohypoxis E.A. Bowles managed 2 thirds at the Southport and Bakewell shows.  Having nothing else to do till the football came on again (HAHAHA joke) I deadheaded it this morning. I took off 724 flowers.
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #87 on: June 12, 2016, 05:09:58 PM »
724 flowers is rather a lot! How big is the pot?
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #88 on: June 12, 2016, 06:25:41 PM »
Lilium Akkusianum.  Success at last.  I obtained seeds some 6/7 years ago from Henry and Margaret Taylor. Germination took a year and I had about 6 seedlings. A couple of bad winters took their toll until I had only one left.  This I planted out as I thought it would be more protected in the soil than in a pot.  To my delight , it decided to flower, as the picture shows.  The scent is delicious.
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Re: June 2016 in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #89 on: June 12, 2016, 06:42:17 PM »
Well done Tom, it looks very pretty.
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