"Effects on Gardeners by Brexit"?

[annew]

While it is true the recent EU referendum result will certainly have many  negative impacts on the  availability  and ease of plant movements to and from the UK, it would be appreciated if  "overtly political" comments could be  avoided. Thank you!

Sorry, Maggi. 

[fermi de Sousa]

Perhaps Maggi could remove these comments to a separate discussion under a new thread "Effects on Gardeners by Brexit"?
Then we won't be hi-jacking Anne's topic
cheers
fermi

[Hoy]

While it is true the recent EU referendum result will certainly have many  negative impacts on the  availability  and ease of plant movements to and from the UK, it would be appreciated if  "overtly political" comments could be  avoided. Thank you!

I apologise if I said anything inappropriate. I didn't mean to start any political discussions for certain!

[fermi de Sousa]

I was just browsing the website of Jaques Amand and noticed that it mentions that Galanthus sent to Norway and Switzerland had to be sent with a CITES certificate at the additional cost of £75. I presume that's because of not being in the EU, or am I mistaken?
cheers
fermi

[Steve Garvie]

The Norwegian/Swiss relationships with the EU have been suggested as the models we should follow by those politicians who promoted "Brexit". But if these relationships are examined in detail it is clear that they come at a high price. Both countries have negotiated access to the European Economic Area (Norway is a member of the EEA) but have to make very significant financial contributions to the EU. Norway is obliged to follow essentially the same EU rules regarding free movement as the EU states and in fact has also had to adopt a considerable number of EU rules to maintain its relationship with the EU. In effect they pay in, accept the EU rules but have no seat at the table when it comes to directing EU policy or making the rules.

Assuming we (speaking as a Brit) follow the Norwegian or Swiss models (which is very likely) then CITES will apply between ourselves and any/all of the EU nations. This will have the greatest impact when buying orchids, cyclamen and galanthus. Our hobby/passion is about to get much more expensive, with much more "red tape" when importing ........and all for what exactly?

[Hoy]

It is true what Steve says. Some say we have implemented more EU rules than any member! We also do it before any other And we have to pay doing it

I need and have to pay for plant health certificates always when buying plants abroad and CITES certificates when necessary but many sellers can't or won't provide any of these do to the costs and time.

[johnstephen29]

This is what we've got to look forward to Steve, NOT

[JSzymon]

Ha! We Yankees on the other side of the Atlantic have to deal with red tape importing anything!  Besides, if Scotland leaves to join the EU, you could "smuggle" them in!

[bulborum]

I have probably to stop going to Stone Green Nursery begin September in a few years
I don't want all the trouble and paperwork for importing and later exporting the leftover bulbs again
Pity because we have a lot regular customers coming for us and our specialities

Roland

[johnw]

Besides, if Scotland leaves to join the EU, you could "smuggle" them in!

Do you have any idea how difficult that would be in a kilt?


john

[David Nicholson]

Do you have any idea how difficult that would be in a kilt?


john

 

[Mark Griffiths]

I'd been looking at Jan Bravenboer's site thinking about getting some seed and noticed he mentioned that for countries outside of the EU you need a phytosanitary certificate. I guess that means when we exit it won't really be feasible to buy from him which is a shame.

[bulborum]

You have three years probably Mark to buy all you want 

Roland

[Graeme]

I'd been looking at Jan Bravenboer's site thinking about getting some seed and noticed he mentioned that for countries outside of the EU you need a phytosanitary certificate. I guess that means when we exit it won't really be feasible to buy from him which is a shame.

dutch are looking to leave as well so it won't be an issue

[johnralphcarpenter]

Read this: https://www.opencanada.org/features/brexit-post-mortem-17-takeaways-fallen-david-cameron/