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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #405 on: January 28, 2010, 11:52:34 PM »
Interesting and very impressive Giles.  I'll try bringing mine in out of the cold now. 
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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #406 on: January 29, 2010, 10:22:45 PM »
Giles,
It's very strange you had such incredible results. I've e-mailed last year Mr WICKENDEN who supplied CHILTERN SEEDS with his Tr SMITHII seed crop and he told me there was no need to give any special treatment. But it's colder now and the seeds may benefit from a "cool" spell?. And you also might have received-as you wrote-seeds with a high germination potential...So You're a lucky skilfull one! Congratulations!
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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #407 on: January 31, 2010, 01:29:04 AM »
Hi, everyone. :)

Jean-Patrick, Giles, congratulation for your new born smithii!
It's winter, hard time indeed, please keep it warm.
My 2 smithii plants keep flowering in my veranda, they're in cool greenhouse at night.

T. hookerianum var. hookerianum (seeds from Chileflora) has started to bloom.
It has yellow flower and smells good.

T. leptophyllum (seeds from Chileflora) has also begun to flower.
But it doesn't look like the catalogue plant.
Is anyone growing this species here?

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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #408 on: January 31, 2010, 08:49:59 AM »
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T. hookerianum var. hookerianum (seeds from Chileflora) has started to bloom.
It has yellow flower and smells good.

The best of both worlds Dora - this Trop looks very happy and at home with you :)
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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #409 on: January 31, 2010, 08:39:27 PM »
The hookerianum is especially good Dora, and with a good smell too! Will the flowers of the lower plant open some more?
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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #410 on: February 01, 2010, 10:44:43 PM »
Hello, Emiko,
What a nice Tr HOOKERIANUM...
Your Tr LEPTOPHYLLUM just looks like a clone of Tr TRICOLOR. Maybe Tr x TENUIROSTRE.
There's probably a big mistake on the website: if you have a close look at the Tr LEPTOPHYLLUM pic and check with SPARRE's drawings this is more likely to be something different. Maybe Tr LOOSERI of which I've never seen pics of. The seeds I received ( which never germinated ) didn't look like those of the Andean species ( which are quite big & different from those of the other chilean Trops ). The ones I've sown looked like-say- Tr azureum seeds.
I have sown Tr LEPTOPHYLLUM seeds ( from JJ Archibald ) and they were quite similar to those of Tr INCISUM & Tr POLYPHYLLUM. But-in fact-I've never seen the true Tr LOOSERI seeds and can only speculate about it. I'llbe interested in any report on this from Tropaeolum growers.
Apart from this their Tr BRACHYCERAS photo is more likely to match with Tr x TENUIROSTRE.
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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #411 on: February 03, 2010, 12:31:05 AM »
Hi, everyone.  :)

I have about 10 plants of doubtful leptophyllum.
3 plants are flowering now. All of them look like T.tricolor or T.tenuirostre, as Jean-Patrick wrote.
T.tenuirostre, I've never seen flowers. There is one in my place, but it's so small that it seems impossible to see flowers this season.
If it bloomed, I could compare these uncertain leptophyllum with tenuirostre.

Yes, there are many confusion about Tropaeolum species.

Jean-Patrick, your leptophyllum is maybe a correct plant. SPARRE wrote "Tropaeolum leptophyllum is well defined but closely related to T.polyphyllum".
The pics of T.leptophyllum on Chileflora website shows similar  to T.incisum or polyphyllum, so I expected this figure for my plant. I hope your T.leptophyllum grow well.  :D

I checked JJ Archibald website, but unfortunately there are no hint now.   :'(

The pic is today's my doubtful leptophyllum.
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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #412 on: February 03, 2010, 10:52:09 PM »
Emiko,
I've previously posted a pic of Tr X TENUIROSTRE obtained from the seed exchange. You can go back to page 12 of this topic for checking with your plants.
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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #413 on: February 04, 2010, 02:06:13 PM »
Jean-Patrick,
Thanks for your helpful comment.
I saw your photo and compared it with my plant. The flowers look like very similar. But the leaves are different a little.

This pic is some leaves of Tropaeolum species in my garden.
pink zone : T.lepidum(my tuber)
red zone: T.tricolor(upper leaves: my tuber, lower leaves: seed from Chileflora)
green zone: T.leptophyllum(?)(seeds from Chileflora)
yellow zone:T.hookerianum var.hookerianum(seeds from Chileflora)
blue zone:T.azureum(upper leaves: my tuber, lower leaves: my seed)
orange zone:T.brachyceras(upper leaves: seed from Chileflora, lower leaves: my tuber, maybe hybrids)

The leaves of your leptophyllum looks like my brachyceras(seed from Chileflora).
It is only natural because T.tenuirostre is a crossbreed of brachyceras and tricolor.
Emiko T.
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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #414 on: February 05, 2010, 10:28:18 PM »
Hello Emiko and everybody,
Just this message to give a useful information with an interesting website in which Tropaeolum pics ( some vary rare Chilean ones ) are put together with botanical description. I'm sure it'll be of interest to most of you. It's in spanish but quite easily understandable and can be translated in english:
http://www.fundacionraphilippi.cl
On the home page click on CHILE NATURAL, then on the FLORA list select TROPAEOLACEAE.
I presume the pics on this site are close to the true species...
J-P
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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #415 on: February 06, 2010, 10:14:34 AM »
Jean-Patrick,
Thank you for this useful hint! In addition to the Tropaeolum pics there are some most desirable Anemone species, especially A. hepaticifolia.

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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #416 on: February 06, 2010, 12:40:05 PM »
Jean-Patrick,
thanks for introducing useful web site.
I wish I could see much more pictures of Tropaeolum...

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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #417 on: April 01, 2010, 07:31:47 AM »
T. tuberosum 'Ken Aslet' has germinated. :)
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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #418 on: April 01, 2010, 11:25:46 PM »
Hi all
Can you help me with this mystery trop?
It came as T azureum from the most reputable of sources.  A seedling though and after a long wait the first flowers are clearly not T azureum.  The second picture is my T tricolorum for comparison.  I am assuming that the mystery plant is a hybrid with T tricolorum blood in it ... unless one of the experts thinks otherwise.

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Re: Tropaeolum
« Reply #419 on: April 02, 2010, 12:40:46 AM »
Hi  Tony,

What an interesting tricolor it is!
I agree with you, it is probably a hybrid tricolor.

The pic is mine appeared in 2008.
Mother plant is tricolor, but father unknown.

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