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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2016, 11:17:26 AM »
Gabriela, not all Latin is real Latin!
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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2016, 02:18:14 PM »
Good to hear you have this bamboo going.  Chusquea culeou is a notorious frequent flowerer and seed producer but I wonder what sparked a young seedling to flower? Have never had such a young C. c. flower here.


Be warned it is a runner and roots go down to Hades making digging extremely difficult.  Seems to be hardy to about -15c but have a few hardier ones ex C. culeou 'Aisan #2' on the go.  Worse for deep diving is Bashania fargesii but it has wonderful huge green culms.

Sorry Trond thought it was Gabriela growing Chusquea...

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« Last Edit: October 06, 2016, 03:38:10 PM by johnw »
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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2016, 04:54:20 PM »
I am also fascinated by bamboo. I have 26 different kinds in the garden. In fact, what is strange about bamboo is that at the same time (sometimes a few months delay), all the bamboo of the same variety in the world will flourish. This happens, either a bamboo established for years or young newly planted young plant. It's almost as if it was a great organization that reacts the same time, regardless of location. This often leads to the grove by the death of the plant or lossy after kilos of seeds. For a freshly planted seedling, sign it certainly plant death due to lack of reserves. I lost, like many, my Fargesia nitida few years ago. It was not until that nurseries provides young plants from seeds to have again.
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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2016, 05:45:38 PM »
Fred  - We saw a few flowers on Fargesia nitida at Inverewe in about 2001 but ours in Nova Scotia did not flower till 2010.  We got nitida seed about 2007 from the AGS and more seed in 2008 from Massachusetts. On the west coast of NAmerica I think it flowered a few years before ours. Our nitidas had some flowers in 2011 but those few remaining culms died a year later.  There were some nitida cultivars that only started flowering in 2013.


F. murielae was apparently collected as single clone but flowers were reported in Denmark in 1972.  We got seed from a few sources in the mid 90's and then our Wilson clone flowered in 1999; a few culms flowered the year before and some flowered in 2000 as I recall. Of about 5000 seedlings there were many dwarf and semi-dwarf seedlings and a very few were as beautiful as the original, inbreeding likely. Here are our two best shot this week, we gave both away to friends, by sheer luck they were the first two we parted with.


And the last two photos of F. nitida at the Annapolis Royal Historic Gardens in 2008 and then post-flowering in 2012. Note the two self-sown seedlings in the last photo.


john - +20C & sunny, +24 tomorrow - it's October and should be wet. ???
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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2016, 09:21:43 PM »
Good to hear you have this bamboo going.  Chusquea culeou is a notorious frequent flowerer and seed producer but I wonder what sparked a young seedling to flower? Have never had such a young C. c. flower here.


Be warned it is a runner and roots go down to Hades making digging extremely difficult.  Seems to be hardy to about -15c but have a few hardier ones ex C. culeou 'Aisan #2' on the go.  Worse for deep diving is Bashania fargesii but it has wonderful huge green culms.

Sorry Trond thought it was Gabriela growing Chusquea...

john

John, I didn't notice that you didn't address me ;D


I had 3 thickets of Fargesia nitida which flowered during a 3 year period several years ago. A 3 died but left many seedlings. I had to dig seedling for many years afterwards, they popped up everywhere.

I also grow two other species. I am not sure of the names though, but think this one is Fargesia muriale:



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The other one I think is Sasa ochidensis:

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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2016, 09:33:18 PM »
We have both Osmunda and Myrica on the local patch. The tallest osmunda is about five feet in height img 2865 (this is not the tallest).

Here is one of my Osmunda regalis plants. It is not tall, but prostrate.

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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2016, 09:40:54 PM »
Happy to see you have Sasa oshidensis, it's reputed to be a good one and hardy as well.


Maybe you can post a shot of your mystery Fargesia.


john - up to +23c
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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2016, 10:11:46 PM »
I currently have a phyllostachys nigra and a phyllostachys aureosulcata spectabilis who are flowering for the 2nd season, it started for both plant the first week of september. I guess i gonna lost them?

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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2016, 10:15:55 PM »
I currently have a phyllostachys nigra and a phyllostachys aureosulcata spectabilis who are flowering for the 2nd season, it started for both plant the first week of september. I guess i gonna lost them?

I have not seen any bamboo surviving blooming. But if you get seeds of P nigra I am interested in swapping/buying!
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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2016, 10:17:07 PM »
Happy to see you have Sasa oshidensis, it's reputed to be a good one and hardy as well.


Maybe you can post a shot of your mystery Fargesia.


john - up to +23c

Do you mean a close up of the supposed muriale?
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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2016, 11:07:44 PM »
Trond  - Sorry thought you had three Fargesias.


Many bamboos survive flowering and carry on, mostly tropical ones but some Sasas & others do as well.  Pseudosasa japonica flowered in NS in the late 80's, no seed, died completely then rose from the dead 2 years later.


Phyllostachys flexuousa flowered here in the late 90's and a number of people in the USA had it re-shoot the next year, P. kwangsiensis flowered in 2012 in Holland and/or Germany and is back up to lofy heights already, its abundant seed were viable and insane growers .  P. aureosulcata flowers on and off on a few culms with no ill effect.

This summer P. propinqua 'Beijing' flowered here head to toe but one culm is flowerless. Not a single seed has been produced.

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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2016, 02:00:34 AM »
Good to hear you have this bamboo going.  Chusquea culeou is a notorious frequent flowerer and seed producer but I wonder what sparked a young seedling to flower? Have never had such a young C. c. flower here.

Be warned it is a runner and roots go down to Hades making digging extremely difficult.  Seems to be hardy to about -15c but have a few hardier ones ex C. culeou 'Aisan #2' on the go.  Worse for deep diving is Bashania fargesii but it has wonderful huge green culms.
Sorry Trond thought it was Gabriela growing Chusquea...
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Chusquea wouldn't be hardy here John and I never had the space for bambou species - kept a Fargesia in a container for a while and then gave it away...They look great in the garden but with proper space and climate. Have seen impressive stands of Phyllostachys in Victoria this year.

Trond - I have to say your Sasa looks very handsome and also hardy! maybe it starts flowering and sets seeds ;)
Don't give to Yann something bad to think about; as far as I know Phyllostachys are the kind that survive flowering.
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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2016, 01:25:50 PM »
Hoy: this is the true nigra, got it from a renowned nursery.
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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2016, 03:56:15 PM »
Phyllostachys aureosulcata spectabilis who are flowering for the 2nd season, it started for both plant the first week of september. I guess i gonna lost them?


Someone reports a few culms of 'Spectabilis' in flower almost every year and yet no one ever gets seed and the plants survivie with zero effect.  Mine flowered 3 years ago, only a few flowers and no decrease in vigour, would run across the street if permitted :o

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Re: October in the Northern Hemisphere
« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2016, 04:04:16 PM »
Mon P. aureosulcata spectabilis a voulu fleurir timidement il y a quelques années. Il n'y a pas eu de suites fâcheuses.
Frédéric Catoul, Amay en Hesbaye, partie francophone de la Belgique.

 


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