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Johan K.

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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #180 on: October 14, 2017, 08:36:41 AM »
Cyclamen hederifolium part 2.

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« Reply #181 on: October 14, 2017, 08:38:38 AM »
Cyclamen hederifolium part 3.

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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #182 on: October 14, 2017, 11:04:38 AM »
Super, Johan, particularly the ones with the sagittage leaves. The final one is a cracker!
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #183 on: October 14, 2017, 03:48:44 PM »
You are growing these very well, Johan - a show in itself!
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #184 on: October 14, 2017, 08:31:29 PM »
Johan you own a very nice and clean collection, wonderful!!
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #185 on: October 15, 2017, 12:55:53 PM »
Thanks for the compliments.

All together it gives this result.

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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #186 on: October 15, 2017, 09:13:18 PM »
without any comparison here baby Cyclamen mirabile from seeds of the Cyclamen Society
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #187 on: October 16, 2017, 10:50:06 AM »
The two photos are of Cyclamen Balearicum grown from seed from the 2015 seed ex.  This is the first time I have grown Balearicum and according to the books it should  not flower until March.  From the photos is it the correct plant or something else?  I would be interested for any opinions.
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #188 on: October 16, 2017, 10:52:39 AM »
Something went wrong so here, hopefully, is the second image.

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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #189 on: October 17, 2017, 12:10:47 PM »
From seed Cyclamen cyprium ex 'ES'
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #190 on: October 20, 2017, 01:55:35 PM »
From Mike Quest's greenhouse today, Cyclamen africanum, a Jim Archibald collection that Mike obtained from Jo Hynes a couple of years ago. The label reads as follows "C. africanum, Archibald 0358000. Ex Algeria, Labylie. E. of Azazga, 850m. Oak scrub. 1/08 "592751-0
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #191 on: October 20, 2017, 02:01:35 PM »
Some other Cyclamen from Mike's greenhouse.

Cyclamen rohlfsianum - a nice leaf form, yet to flower.592755-0

C. mirabile 'Tilebarn Anne', flowering over but a lovely leaf 592757-1

C. graecum ex CSE 94046 S.W. Crete592759-2
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #192 on: October 20, 2017, 02:12:21 PM »
I think Mike said he got these from the Discussion Weekend a couple of years ago as Cyclamen x hilderbrandii, one white flowered and one pink, and he has them in his garden. In his book Chris Grey-Wilson says of x hilderbrandii ""...... unfortunately the hybrid origin of plants in cultivation often has to be doubted and some I have been shown as putative hybrids fit comfortably into the range of variation of ordinary hederifolium....."".  I note that CG-W refers only to pink. Perhaps if the pictures are good enough one of the Cyclamen experts could give a view on these.

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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #193 on: October 22, 2017, 12:56:56 AM »
I think Mike said he got these from the Discussion Weekend a couple of years ago as Cyclamen x hilderbrandii, one white flowered and one pink, and he has them in his garden. In his book Chris Grey-Wilson says of x hilderbrandii ""...... unfortunately the hybrid origin of plants in cultivation often has to be doubted and some I have been shown as putative hybrids fit comfortably into the range of variation of ordinary hederifolium....."".  I note that CG-W refers only to pink. Perhaps if the pictures are good enough one of the Cyclamen experts could give a view on these.

I assume, given the parentage, that the hybrid isn't as hardy as hederifolium? The Cyclamen Society has this to say:

C. africanum is closely related to C. hederifolium. In the wild their ranges do not overlap but in cultivation they readily hybridise – C. x hildebrandii. C. africanum is generally a bigger plant, much less hardy, has a more spherical tuber, roots from the entire surface (flatter and generally bare of roots on the base in C. hederifolium) and has yellow anthers (rust coloured in C. hederifolium).
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Re: Cyclamen 2017
« Reply #194 on: October 22, 2017, 10:40:06 AM »
I assume, given the parentage, that the hybrid isn't as hardy as hederifolium?
The "accepted wisdom" here is that is you aren't sure if you have C. hederifolium or C. africanum, leave it exposed to frost and if it dies it was C. africanum!
Reminds me of dunking witches!
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